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What possessed you to spray the Seafoam in the cylinders to begin with? Was the bike running bad?

My last bike was 14 years old, had 150,000mi on it and I never sprayed anything in the cylinders. And the bike always ran fine. Although I wouldn't think it would hurt the bike, I also wouldn't think a two year old bike would have enough carbon buildup to effect it's performance.

~Pete
That was my reaction too. Name brand gas has detergents in it already. And a 2 year old bike... ?

joe
 
Discussion starter · #22 ·
First off I thought spraying Seafoam directly in the spark plug hole wouldn't hurt anything. And yes I think the bike was somewhat carboned up from the oil misting into the intake then into the cylinders. When changing oil I went with the 3 1/2 quarts which I think is too much to begin with. But I followed the manual.
I also have the SE air cleaner which directs oil overflow (misting) back into the cylinders. I know have that fixed by taking the oil and redirecting it out, not into the cylinders.

I switched out the plugs last night, and will take it for a spin this morning. If that does not work I will pull the injectors and clean them.

thx
 
First off I thought spraying Seafoam directly in the spark plug hole wouldn't hurt anything. And yes I think the bike was somewhat carboned up from the oil misting into the intake then into the cylinders. When changing oil I went with the 3 1/2 quarts which I think is too much to begin with. But I followed the manual.
I also have the SE air cleaner which directs oil overflow (misting) back into the cylinders. I know have that fixed by taking the oil and redirecting it out, not into the cylinders.

I switched out the plugs last night, and will take it for a spin this morning. If that does not work I will pull the injectors and clean them.

thx
Don't pull the injectors, you can't physically clean them. You have to spray cleaner though them at operating pressure. It's usually done with them in place, using an adapter set up. Seafoam in the fuel tank will keep them clean.

103's do carbon up more than they should. I think it's a combination of what comes out the breathers, oil and vapor, and the high temps in the combustion chambers.

The dealers are pulling a lot of heads to scrape carbon these days.

When I replaced the head gasket on mine, there was a lot of carbon. Way too much build up a scooter with less than 15K on the clock. And it's never pushed enough oil to see any in the air box/filter. But there was an oily trail down into the throttle body. So I re-plumbed mine. Just closed the ports in the front of the plate, added a pair of nipples in through the side, and ran hose under the scooter. I used clear hose so I could see what it was doing.

One hose is darker than the other after 1000 miles. Not sure what that's about. But so far no actual oil has come out. Just vapor.

One of these days I'll fab out a little draft tube and mount everything up nice and neat. But that can wait till cold weather, what I have is working fine for now.
 
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I don't see how it could have hurt the injectors. They are back behind the intake valve in the intake port.

What it may have done is loosen some of the deposits up and fouled the plugs. Same could be said for the 02 sensors.

I'd try a set of plugs before I went much further with it.
Bingo....thx. I was running NGK DCPR7EIX (#6036) and they looked fine. I replaced them and now the bike is running fine.
Geez.....maybe won't use Iriduim plugs again.
 
Bingo....thx. I was running NGK DCPR7EIX (#6036) and they looked fine. I replaced them and now the bike is running fine.
Geez.....maybe won't use Iriduim plugs again.
Kinda expensive to use them while cleaning out the carbon.

Back in the days before 02 sensors and cats, there used to be some really good carbon cutters sold by the auto manufacturers. They all cut carbon well, and they all killed plugs. But back then plugs only lasted 12K miles or so. And cost 95 cents.
 
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Pretty sure the reason that the lines are port from the heads to the intake is so that the vacuum created during the intake process can scavenge excess gases, and yes some oil vapor, from the heads/rocker boxes. Don't know if I would mess with this function or not, pretty sure HD designed it that way for a reason and it was probably designed by someone a lot smarter than me.
 
Pretty sure the reason that the lines are port from the heads to the intake is so that the vacuum created during the intake process can scavenge excess gases, and yes some oil vapor, from the heads/rocker boxes. Don't know if I would mess with this function or not, pretty sure HD designed it that way for a reason and it was probably designed by someone a lot smarter than me.
I'm pretty sure that they are ported to the intake to make the EPA happy.

That's why they did it back in the 90's, after the EPA realized everyone was just pulling the hoses of the externally plumbed ones.

There is no positive venting of the crankcase with the system they use now.
 
First off I thought spraying Seafoam directly in the spark plug hole wouldn't hurt anything. And yes I think the bike was somewhat carboned up from the oil misting into the intake then into the cylinders. When changing oil I went with the 3 1/2 quarts which I think is too much to begin with. But I followed the manual.
I also have the SE air cleaner which directs oil overflow (misting) back into the cylinders. I know have that fixed by taking the oil and redirecting it out, not into the cylinders.

I switched out the plugs last night, and will take it for a spin this morning. If that does not work I will pull the injectors and clean them.
thx

Can't go wrong reading and following the manufacturer's directions for things like oil quantity. Ditto directions for other products - like the Sea Foam. :whistle:

Think I'd switch out the plugs, run a can of Sea Foam through the tank as outlined in the directions. If no joy, find whatever appropriate product is recommended to clean out injectors and use it as-recommended.
 
I just dont think that just spraying seafoam into the plug holes is a good idea in the first place.
 
If one is good, I better take 3.
 
I just dont think that just spraying seafoam into the plug holes is a good idea in the first place.
@gree:

I suspect some crud is gunked up somewhere it shouldn't be. Don't want to start speculating but do hope a can through the gas cleans everything out.

Not meaning to rip on OP because I've sure as hell done some dumb stuff -- but why on earth would someone dump stuff into their plug hole?? This is a new bike too right?? WTF??!!

Reminds me of a guy on a sportbike forum a few years back who who had been reading about people using NOS, so he bought a can from a convenience store and dumped it into his tank then came on the forum asking why it ran like sheit.
 
@gree:

I suspect some crud is gunked up somewhere it shouldn't be. Don't want to start speculating but do hope a can through the gas cleans everything out.

Not meaning to rip on OP because I've sure as hell done some dumb stuff -- but why on earth would someone dump stuff into their plug hole?? This is a new bike too right?? WTF??!!

Reminds me of a guy on a sportbike forum a few years back who who had been reading about people using NOS, so he bought a can from a convenience store and dumped it into his tank then came on the forum asking why it ran like sheit.
He got it fixed. It was the plugs.
 
Glad to know that. Illustrates the correctness of checking the easy things first. A happy ending!
That'a an easy rule to forget, sometimes. Right up there with "Only change one thing at a time".

joe
 
so along the seafoam line how much do you use in a tank of fuel i havnt used it in a while an i forget.I used to put a few ounces in every spring maybe thats not enough
 
so along the seafoam line how much do you use in a tank of fuel i havnt used it in a while an i forget.I used to put a few ounces in every spring maybe thats not enough
Theres directions on the can that tells you how much to mix with a certain amount of fuel.
 
I been running it alot lately on my 4 wheeler and mower, as fuel stabikizer. 1 ounce to 1 gallon.
 
Theres directions on the can that tells you how much to mix with a certain amount of fuel.
Ok went out an got a can(473 ml) of sea foam says one can treats 30-95 litres of gas. so i will go with 2 oz to a tank lol




473 ml converts to 16 oz 30-95 litres converts to 7.5 to 23.75( at 4 litres to a gal)
 
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