Just wondering how bad this crank problem is and the fix and if it is all years,i know of a lot of 96's here but there has been no problems so far that i know of ..do you have to replace the crank..This is the sixth Harley I've owned i would have thought the should have got a lot better not worse...i do love this 2008 Fat Bob the bike is a cracker
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I thought you were going riding.:redrolf:Just wondering how bad this crank problem is and the fix and if it is all years,i know of a lot of 96's here but there has been no problems so far that i know of ..do you have to replace the crank..This is the sixth Harley I've owned i would have thought the should have got a lot better not worse...i do love this 2008 Fat Bob the bike is a cracker
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Check with your dealers service desk and ask them how many claims for "crank problem"
Check out Latus Harley Davidson forum for crank related issues for the tc96
Talk and ask other riders you know.
Get the facts from industry experts regarding the specfics of known tc96 crank failures and ask them WHAT WAS THE FAILURE AND WHY....(specfics)....if they cannot or will not answer that then move on to someone who can, their out there.
Lastly watch out for the fast talkin sales guy, you know the "Con Men" this industry has many, they will try to scare you out of your hard earned money and probably know very little about cranks except maybe the type of crank some smoke.:cya:
I would like to add as an example, this thread, where many have fallen folly to the Land Sharks feeding grounds, the internet.
thats hard to do for long. all the vibration from his perfect crank makes him just ride to the end of the street and back.
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It matters not Dennis that actual personal experience with 2 cranks in my case counts, nor my dealers issues with the cranks that they have replaced. I just haven't been to the other dealerships that tell the truth. Gotta love xtractors wisdom, damm wish i had some of it. Then maybe the cranks wouldn't have let go, and i would still be in the money. lol
yeah carl, and i wouldnt have been without a ride for a couple months and having all these nice folks sending me parts to fix my scooter.
we just make this stuff up because we are lonley, cant get laid, and look to the internet for some sort of attention.
we just make this stuff up because we are lonley, cant get laid, and look to the internet for some sort of attention.
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dont they have task forces to prevent that now:redrolf:
Hmmmm,..... Perhaps we are due some Stimulus money?
Lots of money would straighten our sorry azzes out real good!
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if i had some money, i could find the stimulus. :clap: clinton only needed a cigar. i would just be PUD POUNDER but then i would be like those who dont believe in crank shifting. or wait! that gives whole new meaning to shifting cranks! and do unto others, and get a tax break .:woohoo: look out spokane, here i come-------literally.:redrolf:
oh my, i really hurt myself sometimes, oh the pain, my sides are killin me. somebody stop me before i go gettin funny.
oh my, i really hurt myself sometimes, oh the pain, my sides are killin me. somebody stop me before i go gettin funny.
Crank scissoring
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.0006 I decided to put the SE chain drive set back in with new tensioner shoes and chains. Well at 59,000 miles I noticed an oil pressure problem. I called my PHD (professor of Harley Davidson), who worked at Bud's Harley in Evansville Indiana for 30 years and did all their machine work before him and Bud parted ways. When he checked the run out it was over .0030 and had ate up the oil pump. That was the first time I heard the term "scissoring the crank". That is when one or both of the flywheels rotate out of position and throws everything out of alignment. He told me he had an '07 that did the same thing under warranty and that it was not an uncommon problem. It does happen and is a very expensive fix, if, like me, the scoot is not under warranty. It is what happens when an unsplined, unkeyed crank is pressed together with a shoulder instead of tapered press fit. He has also fixed several of them by trueing the crank and TIG welding the 3 piece crank in the appropriate places.
Now, I like horsepower, but, I have never done a burnout (rev up and dump the clutch), or a wheelie. I think more of my machine than that. I did spank it every once in a while and ride it above the speed limit, but never abused it. Now, if you don't believe it happens, I can't help that, but it did happen to me. It was the fault of the crankshaft. It had been getting progressively worse since day one. If you put almost 60.000 miles on your ride, I hope it doesn't happen to you. It is not just paticular to '07s. I have no reason to lie and I wouldn't lose any sleep over it either, til it happened to me .
Thanks, JR
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Wow, try this for substance. I have owned 4 shovels and 2 twin cams. My current scoot being an 04 which I purchased new. I had the dealer do an upper end mod before I even picked it up. My 99 didn't have quite the grunt I was looking for, so I thought I would upgrade. They did a 95" kit with 10.5/1 pistons, screamin' eagle heads and SE 257 cams, aluminum pushrods, roller rockers, rocker supports, high flow air intake, SE exhaust, and SE race tuners module. Now I had never heard of crank failure or run out at this time. At 30,000 miles, Morgan Hill Harley (House of Thunder) installed an S&S gear drive cam set with close to the same specs as the SE cams. At the time the run out on the the cam side was less than .0002. At 50,000 miles I broke 2 teeth on one of the cam gears. So I had new gears installed and the run out was almost .0006. Well within 200 miles the same 2 teeth on the same gear broke off. After some checking with S&S I found that their spec on the run out for gear drives was .0002 whereas Harley's tolerence was .0006. So after checking the run out and seeing that it wasWow, guys since NONE of you can add any substance, to support your claim nor speak on record as being a expert on the subject, I now yeld my argument to the real industry experts, and proclaim Xtractor the Winner, cheers!
.0006 I decided to put the SE chain drive set back in with new tensioner shoes and chains. Well at 59,000 miles I noticed an oil pressure problem. I called my PHD (professor of Harley Davidson), who worked at Bud's Harley in Evansville Indiana for 30 years and did all their machine work before him and Bud parted ways. When he checked the run out it was over .0030 and had ate up the oil pump. That was the first time I heard the term "scissoring the crank". That is when one or both of the flywheels rotate out of position and throws everything out of alignment. He told me he had an '07 that did the same thing under warranty and that it was not an uncommon problem. It does happen and is a very expensive fix, if, like me, the scoot is not under warranty. It is what happens when an unsplined, unkeyed crank is pressed together with a shoulder instead of tapered press fit. He has also fixed several of them by trueing the crank and TIG welding the 3 piece crank in the appropriate places.
Now, I like horsepower, but, I have never done a burnout (rev up and dump the clutch), or a wheelie. I think more of my machine than that. I did spank it every once in a while and ride it above the speed limit, but never abused it. Now, if you don't believe it happens, I can't help that, but it did happen to me. It was the fault of the crankshaft. It had been getting progressively worse since day one. If you put almost 60.000 miles on your ride, I hope it doesn't happen to you. It is not just paticular to '07s. I have no reason to lie and I wouldn't lose any sleep over it either, til it happened to me .
Thanks, JR
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Not good buissness
"Son getting a Harley is a major life event, get ready for that one, youll only need one, there that good". Angleflights.
I need to re-edit my quote to include, "Buy the extended warrentee you will need it".
HD must loose a ton of money with all the warrenty work they have to dish out.. Not good buissness.
PS: No crank issues, but I just commute to work very fast.
Nough said.
"Son getting a Harley is a major life event, get ready for that one, youll only need one, there that good". Angleflights.
I need to re-edit my quote to include, "Buy the extended warrentee you will need it".
HD must loose a ton of money with all the warrenty work they have to dish out.. Not good buissness.
PS: No crank issues, but I just commute to work very fast.
Nough said.
Well, I ain't your son, and I'm 60 years old. If I had my first Harley I'd still be riding an old shovel head. Nothing like an upgrade. As far as the extended warranty, it would long be up by now, "dad".
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One of life's cruel tricks is we come into this world drooling on our selves and pooping our pants and as we become ancient we start drooling and pooping our selves once again.:redrolf:
That's why I still ride about 15,000 miles a year, to forget about everything and enjoy the ride called life. And even when I start to need to wear depends I'll still be riding. I just hope you're not behind me.
Keep it clean.
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I guess you would be putting new meaning to the phrase Shake A Legg.
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Haven't read all the post but pretty sure nothing is perfect and harley falls in there. If my crank blows up I guess I will deal with it.
Conspiracy theory.
Conspiracy theory.
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Well then, you might want to read all the posts. While you're at it, you might want to check out this poll:
http://www.v-twinforum.com/forums/t...s/twin-cam-96-engine-technical-discussion/151566-harley-crankshaft-quality.html
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http://View Poll Results: 07-08 owners with or without crankshaft issues
07-08 with crankshaft issues 8 3.40%
07-08 without cranshaft issues 227 96.60%
hdforums.com/forums/touring-models/27362-no-complaning-just-the-facts
07-08 with crankshaft issues 8 3.40%
07-08 without cranshaft issues 227 96.60%
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I would true and Weld my crank If I increased my 2006 FXDI from 88 to 95, and check the new Crank for being true if I jumped to 103. ( Yes It would get welded and balanced also.) The cases would be modified to accept tapered bearings also if I went to 103 ". You start getting real good torque at 103 inches.
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Crank Runout
Does anyone on this forum eally know how much .0002 is ?
Does .002 to .003.... which is the thicknes of the hair on your head really make the much difference ? I can see if it was .012 or greater but .002 ? You can hold a piece of metal in your hand and make it measure .0002 more by the warmth of you hand.
Does anyone on this forum eally know how much .0002 is ?
Does .002 to .003.... which is the thicknes of the hair on your head really make the much difference ? I can see if it was .012 or greater but .002 ? You can hold a piece of metal in your hand and make it measure .0002 more by the warmth of you hand.
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It's just that is so easy to turn a shaft on a lathe within 0.001". That's not to mention on an O.D. grinder you can easily get into the 0.0001'ths. And the fact that the components are so critical. Oil pump and crank. What is the clearance between the inner and outer gearotors of the pump? I'm guessing less than 0.005".
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