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Torn between a Heritage and a Stratoliner

24K views 84 replies 32 participants last post by  1bdBagr  
#1 ·
The Strat is such a strong highway bike, 1900cc of freight train. The Heritage is a really cool Classic bike, 2004.

The thing that gets me is, the Strat is less expensive to purchase, costs less to maintain and is more dependable. The Harley on the other hand, is cooler and more iconic.

What you guys and gals think?
 
#85 ·
Oh yeah, Pull seat off and unbolt dash/speedo assembly and make sure its all plugged in correctly and nothing was loose. Re-Check speedo....i've never had mine act up like that.
Second thing i forgot, putting the Road Glide fairing would be a good size project. Better to look into a batwing detachable type at least for ease of install and keeping the bike's heritage. Good luck
Tim
 
#84 · (Edited)
Here is a pic of my RK with the beach bars, mine are (i believe) Burly Bikini Bars they are 36" wide at the ends of the grips. I'm at 6' and they are quite comfortable. I think where your hand controls are make for a funny angle and being uncomfortable. Then again, i've never liked the wide beach bars on anything but softails. Mine are not too wide pretty good for splitting lanes. Also have a Bob Dron /Ness Fairing, It doesn't have the coverage of a full windshield but i like it. I think it will help deflect the wind around my tunes too. I think i have a steel braided clutch cable that was on my bike i'd give you if you needed it. I don't think it was mint condition, clear outer sheath has some scuffs, buy you could have it if you were up Ontario way ever.
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PS bike isn't sitting on lift straight lol they look crooked
 
#83 ·
the thing is most street metrics don't have an engine performance upgrade world.... just the oem parts to fix em back up stock when something breaks....harleys have a universe of aftermarket upgrades to get it performing like you want it....and the great satisfaction of your new found power and much better if you wrenched it yourself.....you gotta think about the whole package...if you don't like to tinker and if your not a mechanic you need $$ for one...but now most harleys are very dependable if you dont mess with it and are happy with stock....but they can be made much more dependable with the right mods..and degraded with the wrong mods....if you just want to turn a key and not care whats going on down there that will hold you off for now...until you save up for that harley....of course!!
 
#79 · (Edited)
I rode the bike about 60 miles today; did not like the beach bars. Also, need to get a windshield, or... put on the fairing from my Roadstar. I put a Road Glide fairing on my Roadstar recently - nice setup!

Has anyone ever put the RG fairing on a Road King? It's basically the same as a Road Glide, right?

Also, my speedometer stopped working halfway through the ride - is this a common problem? Maybe a fuse??
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#78 · (Edited)
A lot of guys get heritage bars which are essentially baby apes and come standard on some of the police bikes. Also as a previous poster pointed out it appears the controls were mounted in an awkward position. It will improve the comfort if they are simply rotated to fit the normal extension of your hands so that you pull the clutch and brake levers straight back in line with your arms for better leverage. If longer cables weren't installed with the beach bars the cables will probably be fairly close to the right length as well for the baby apes fir close to stock also.
 
#77 ·
Ride a Harley for 10 years and see what it is worth (dollar value), ride a Star for that same duration of time and take a look at their value and ask yourself what bike is the better "cost" value. Also think about the parts and their availability, in 10 years I will be able to buy a drive belt for my H-D, you might not be that lucky with the Star. I had this problem with my early Victory Motorcycle, just could not buy parts.....sucked!
 
#71 ·
Beautiful bike. My wife has the same Lindy engine guards on her Fat Boy. A detachable windshield would look nice and function well for you. Seek out Memphis Shades, and get a two tone shield to match the nice color scheme. Memphis Shades windshields are great - again, something my wife has on her Fat Boy.

The beach bars are the the only feature that looks out of place on that bike. I'll let some of the more experienced guys make a suggestion on a better set of bars for that style.
 
#59 ·
The only sure thing about anything mechanical is that at some point it will break down. Yamahas, Harleys, Vics, and pretty much all modern motorcycles are generally reliable if not heavily modified or abused. Buy what you like and enjoy it. And don't listen to the, "You can't or shouldn't tour on an XXX," BS. I've got a 70 year old buddy that tours on an '02 low rider with a windshield and rider backrest. He's put nearly 175k on that bike, the only mods being punched out baffles, better breathing ac, hydraulic cam tensioners and carb rejetting. Major breakdowns? None, just stuff like brake rotors, stator and voltage regulator after 100k. He says it's luxurious compared to the 550 Honda he toured on for many years.


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#55 ·
George, bottom-line is your comparing apples to oranges when talking Softail vs. Touring.

Honestly ask yourself a basic question:

Am I buying this bike for day rides or touring?

The Softail Heritage is a great day-ride bike and occassional touring bike. But, if you're plan is primarily touring, then the touring frame is your best bet. I have owned both and ultimately gave up the Heritage because my primary riding is touring. As it turns out, I have found the touring frame to be equally enjoyable on errands and day rides as the Heritage, where the Heritage cannot compete with the Ultra for touring.

Now consider:

Will I primarily ride single or two-up?

Again, Heritage is great for two-up day rides, but it cannot hold a candle to the touring frame for two-up riding, especially at distance.

JMHO, of course. There are die-hard Heritage fanatics that will flame me, which leads me to my third point.

It's all personal preference
 
#54 ·
I'm just trying to get some answers before I buy. Are these issues or not? If they are not, please explain; some of you, like Jeffytune, have posted intelligent responses, others have not.
Don't be so defensive Rendell, I'm not trying to bash.
 
#47 ·
I cam across a few other potential issues; are these legitimate claims?

The engine is not sufficiently secured to the frame causing weaving, wiggling, wobbles and rear wheel steer. There is a fix. ProgressiveSuspension.com makes brackets you can install yourself to stop the high speed wobble. True-Track also makes a fix for Dyna, Low Rider and Touring models.

The biggest problem is the poor design of the cam chain system. It still uses "shoes" riding on the cam chains that can still wear out, even with the new hydraulic tensioning system, for that is not a true fix. What is the problem? The shoes rub against the two chains and the shoes wear out. When they do there will be metal to metal contact and this grinding creates metal shavings that creates a catastrophic engine failure. What is the fix? You can purchase a gear set that eliminates the cam chains and shoes. Harley-Davidson should, in my opinion, make this a standard fix and not an after the fact option. If you can't afford to install the gear system, then you need to disassemble and inspect the inner and outer shoes every 15,000 miles or risk total engine failure. The shoe material can also clog the oil pump totally destroying the engine.

The shift drum is operated by a spring loaded awl and if this spring fails, and they do fail, the spring falls into the transmission gears and horrific damage takes place.
Another terrible problem all Twin-Cam engines have is the dreaded "crankshaft slip." A perfectly new bike with low miles can suddenly begin vibrating so badly it makes riding no fun anymore, even if the engine is rubber mounted.

As the 88 twin cam engine evolved to the 96 cubic inch a strain developed on the gears. In the year 2007 the inner bearing race was upgraded due to bearing failure. In the year 2010 the fifth gear was changed to a reverse-helical gear to neutralize the side load on the bearing. What does this mean to the average rider? It means if you hop up the engine on any twin-cam engine you risk a major transmission failure. So, you need to purchase and install a fifth gear and bearing/shaft update kit if you ride the bike hard (which many riders do). The race on the shaft can move, which lets the seal leak and the bearing walk/wobble more than it should accelerating wear and fail. Some riders have found this bearing failure twice in 40,000 miles. Mostly hard-ridden stock 88 and 96 will fail along with those with souped-up engines (pistons, cams including crankshaft long-stroked engines). But the new 103 cubic inch twin cam are not immune to transmission failure even though they have the updated kit installed at the factory.

The 88 cubic inch engine ran hot and at the high limits and the 96 cubic inch engine runs hotter yet which is not good for the engine. The 110 cubic inch engines run exceedingly hotter and so much so a class-action law suit was filed against Harley-Davidson from riders being burned from the engine heat (mostly from the rear cylinder near the rider's thighs).
The Twin-Cam bikes 3-phase 45 and 48 amp alternators burn up or they will burn up other electrical components. There is a cure. Replace the entire alternator with a new 50 amp unit manufactured by CycleElectric.com

To replace a worn or perforated belt the entire primary chain case must be taken apart along with the bike's swing arm. It is expensive to replace a belt or the transmission drive pulley. Most riders don't even think about this until the day comes they have to replace the belt and find out it will cost them $1,000.
 
#57 ·
With the exception of the cam chain tensioners those are not legitimate concerns. There may have been isolated problems but nothing epidemic.

The cam chain tensioner problem on the twin cam was addressed in 2007. Anything that year or newer will be fine.

Buy a Harley, you won't be disappointed.
 
#44 ·
Mark, To be fair, the V-Star 950 is a cheap, entry level, starter bike. You are comparing a $9,000 motorcycle to an $18,000 motorcycle. So the $18,000 bike is built better? I would hope so... Like comparing a Yugo to a Volvo.
Half Crazy,

You are exactly right! You can't compare those two. I was just trying to point out, maybe not so clearly the reason I went with the Heritage over the Roadstar or Strat.