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Garmin GPS 2610/2720/2730 Comprehensive Harley Installation Information - Here

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Garmin GPS 26XX-27XX--2820 Comprehensive Harley Installation Information - Here

UPDATED: 11/1/2006

Here is some Garmin/Harley GPS installation information based on experience installing: 2720's on two 2006 Screamin Eagle Ultra's and one on a 2000 Ultra, 2730’s installed on a 2003 Ultra and a 2000 Ultra for friends. The 2820 wires up and mounts just like the 2730. 26XX units hook up and mount just like the 2720.

This post covers:

A. Connecting GPS Audio Voice Navigation To Your Radio System.

B. Installing 2730/2820 XM antenna.

C. GPS 12VDC Hardwire Installation.

D. Handlebar Mounting of GPS unit.

E. Installing GPS Harley Davidson POI Database.

F. Adding An Optional Auxillary Input Jack To Back Of Harley Radio.

G. Connecting Multiple GPS/Audio Sources To Your Radio System.

H. Other additional worthwhile 2720/2730 information
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A. *26XX-2720 VOICE NAVIGATION HOOK-UP (See B. below for 2730/2820 hook-up):

1. To get the voice navigation information from the GPS thru your Ultra radio system using the Aux input jack on the front panel of the radio (covered by a small rubber plug) and 12VDC hardwire hook-up you will need Garmin Part Number 010-10495-02 Motorcycle power/audio cable available from: http://shop.garmin.com/accessory.jsp?sku=010-10495-02

2. You will also need a 2.5mm to 3.5mm patch cable from the 2.5mm audio pigtail in the above wiring harness to connect the GPS mono audio navigation information to your radio 3.5mm Aux input jack.

We use a 2.5mm to 3.5mm isolating patch cable from here:
http://www.tesseractcorp.com/accessories.htm#Isolating Patch Cords

NOTES:

There are two different isolation cables, make sure you get the correct one which is: 2.5mm to 3.5mm.

This is a special isolation patch cable that will also fix ground loop problems if you have them.

When using this cable alone you will have the GPS navigation audio sound in your two left speakers only. If you want the audio navigation sound from all four speakers you can add Radio Shack adapter part number 274-374 to the end of the cable that goes into the radio Aux plug.

This cable is available in various lengths, get the one that seems right for your installation.

We routed the excess audio cable thru the fairing handlebar opening.

This cable color is gray. You can use a black Magic Marker to darken the cable.

3. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:

Ground Loop is indicated by buzzing/humming sounds coming from your speakers.

We have installed 2720’s on two 2006 Screamin Eagle Ultra’s with ground loop problems. The above isolation cable cured the problems.

A 2720 installed on a 2000 Ultra did not have a ground loop problem.

A Street Pilot III (SP III) installed on a 2000 Ultra had a ground loop problem that the above isolation cable also fixed.


B. *2730-2820 VOICE NAVIGATION HOOK-UP & XM ANTENNA MOUNTING:

1. Use Garmin Street Pilot motorcycle 12VDC hardwire cable part number: GC12v26 from: http://www.cycoactive.com/gps/powint.htm

NOTE: You do not want to use the Garmin Part Number 010-10495-02 wiring harness used in A.1. above because it has an audio pigtail hanging from it that you do not need.

2. The audio voice navigation information from these units comes out of a 3.5mm stereo jack on the side of the GPS case.

We used this patch cable to connect the GPS audio navigation information from the GPS to the bike radio Aux input jack (covered by a small rubber plug), part number SP-SPSC-7 from: http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-SPSC-7

NOTES:

This cable is available in various lengths, get the one that seems right for your installation.

Using this cable will result in GPS navigation audio to all four speakers on your bike and a nice looking right angle connector going into the radio.

We routed the excess audio cable thru the fairing handlebar opening.

3. GROUND LOOP/HUMMING & BUZZING SOUNDS: If after connecting the GPS audio output to your radio you have humming/buzzing sounds coming from your speakers you likely have a ground loop problem.

There is a GPS Menu adjustment that allows you to switch between Auxiliary and Headphone here: Main/Settings/GeneralAudio/Audio Output. Try switching between these settings, if this does not fix the ground loop problem you will need a 3.5mm to 3.5mm isolating patch cable to replace the patch cable from paragraph B.2. above from here: http://www.tesseractcorp.com/accessories.htm#Isolating Patch Cords

NOTES:

There are two different isolation cables, make sure you get the correct one which is: 3.5mm to 3.5mm.

With this cable alone you will have the GPS navigation audio sound in your two left speakers only. If you want the audio navigation sound from all four speakers you can add Radio Shack adapter part number 274-374 to the end of the cable that goes into the radio Aux plug.

This cable color is gray, you can use a black Magic Marker to darken it.

We have installed 2730’s on a 2000 and 2003 Ultra and did not have a ground loop problem needing the isolation cable with either one.

4. The 2730 XM antenna with it's magnetic base mounts and works properly on the top center of the Harley radio case under the fairing. Put a few dabs of silicone around the edge of the antenna to keep it from moving.


C. 12VDC HARDWIRE POWER HOOK-UP:

The hook-up is the same regardless of which of the two hardwire harnesses you use.

*NOTE: 26XX-27XX-2820 USERS:
If you do not want the GPS audio navigation information wired to your radio (it's a waste not to) and just want to hardwire the 12VDC to your GPS unit you will only need Garmin Street Pilot motorcycle hardwire cable part number: GC12V26 from: http://www.cycoactive.com/gps/powint.htm

This cable does not have the audio output pigtail on it.

NOTE: Use a 1 amp in-line fuse for whatever method you use to hook-up the hardwire.

1. For a permanent hook-up we routed the hardwire thru the fairing handlebar opening and used the back of the cigarette lighter under the fairing for the power. Be sure to connect the red wire to the center of the plug (positive) and black wire to the ground (negative).

The fairing is very easy to remove, just 7 easy access screws. You can place a card table with a towel on it next to the left side front fender, put socks over the spot lights to protect the fairing and a towel on the front fender to protect it. Once the fairing is free just lay it on the card table, no need to disconnect anything under the fairing.

See mounting directions in paragraph D. below before you decide which side handlebar opening to use.

2. For a removable hook-up using the bike's cigarette lighter socket we used a male cigarette lighter plug on the end of the hardwire cable to make it removable. We used West Marine Model 6867899 from here: http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wc...10001&productId=233816&keyword=6867899+&y=16&x=8&storeId=10001&ddkey=SiteSearch

NOTE: Be sure to replace the 10A fuse that is in the plug with a 1A fuse.

3. To make a "quick disconnect" hook-up we used the type of connectors found on motorcycle battery chargers and trailer light hook-ups. We used a 2 plug, 2 pin SAE extension connector, part number PAC-022-36 from here: http://www.digitalprovisions.com/Me...erchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=FARKLEMASTER&Category_Code=POWERLET Cut 6" off one end of this cable and attach the other part to the back of the cigarette lighter plug. Connect the 6" piece to the Garmin hardwire after adjusting it to the correct length. If you use small round crimp splice connectors and wire shrink wrap (available from Radio Shack) you end up with a nice result.

NOTE: To prevent an accidental short circuit, wire the SAE connector with the exposed pin of the plug connected to the negative wire on the cigarette lighter plug.

4. The hardwire can also be connected to the Harley console Accessory switch (located on the right side of the ignition switch). This switch controls a 12VDC power port located under the seat. Use Harley circuit adapter harness part number 70264-94A.

Getting the hardwire to that plug requires running the hardwire thru the top gas tank console or under the gas tank. The Harley 70264-94A adapter is a pigtail that plugs into the Harley harness. The pigtail connects to the GPS hardwire.

5. It's a very good idea to use a removable disconnect or switch on the hardwire power cable because the GPS end of the Garmin hardwire cable exposes the 12VDC when it is not connected to the GPS and it can easily short out if not kept covered, disconnected or switched off.

6. If you use wire ties for the wires on your handle bar, most Harley dealers sell chrome colored wire tie wraps that look nicer than the usual black ones.

7. Suggest that you read the "Handlebar Mounting Options" paragraph below before you decide which hardwire hook-up method to utilize.


D. HANDLEBAR MOUNTING OPTIONS:

1. Highly recommend Garmin 26XX-27XX-2820 locking mounting bracket: http://shop.garmin.com/accessory.jsp?sku=010-10495-01

This Garmin mounting bracket comes with a unique security screw to lock the GPS in place. You need to use the silver two piece screw driver that comes with it to turn the screw as it has a unique head. (The screw driver does not look like a screw driver until you unscrew the top from the screw driver.)

CAUTION: If you can see a red band on top of the Garmin bracket after you install your GPS unit it has not been secured properly!

NOTES:

RAM also makes a 26XX-27XX-2820 mounting bracket but it is very easy for anyone to remove your GPS unit from the bracket because it does not lock. The above Garmin bracket also locks in the power wire connection which will keep it from vibrating loose, the RAM mount does not and vibration could be a potential problem.

Mounting the GPS on the right side handlebar gets it closer to your face and does not hide the gas gauge. It also allows you work the GPS when stopped and holding the clutch in. I find that using my left hand to operate the GPS while under way is not a problem even though I am right handed. This of course is a personal preference.

2. The 26XX/2720 mounting bracket (part number 010-10495-01) and 12VDC hardwire cable/audio harness (Part No: 010-10495-02) is available from Garmin as a package, part number 010-10495-00: http://shop.garmin.com/accessory.jsp?sku=010-10495-00

NOTE: this package does not have the correct cable for the 2730 or 2820. See paragraph B.1. above.

3. We used RAM chrome mounting pieces to mount the Garmin GPS bracket mount to the Harley handle bar. (Non chrome RAM pieces are available at less cost.) We used RAM part numbers: B-231CHU, B-201CHU & B-202CHU from here: http://www.ram-mount.com/

4. If you use RAM products to mount your GPS on your bike I would recommend adding a RAM locking knob, part number RAM KNOB3L: http://65.102.174.116/rammount/prod...ammount/productdetail.aspx?partnumber=RAM-KNOB3L&searchTerm=locking knob&item=2

NOTES:

Use of the Garmin mounting bracket and RAM locking knob will go a long way in preventing theft of your GPS unit.

I find that using a removable or quick disconnect 12VDC power connection is more practical when using the Garmin Locking Bracket, otherwise you will have to remove the GPS from the bracket to disconnect the 12VDC power wire when you want to remove the GPS from the bike. If you have a removable power or quick disconnect power wire you can remove the GPS and bracket together at once. I prefer using the quick disconnect setup described in C.3. above.


E. HARLEY DEALER NATIONAL POI & WAYPOINT LISTING:

1. 27XX-2820 USERS (26XX users see 2. below):

You can load all 930 USA/Canada/Mexico Harley Dealer location POI's to your GPS unit. When you load the dealer POI database it will place a Harley logo on your map screen wherever there is a dealer. The POI database includes dealer address and phone numbers. You can set the GPS to alert you when you are within a pre-determined distance of any dealer (we used 5 miles). It will also give you a list of the 50 closest HD dealers to wherever you are at any given time, starting with the closest one. You can select any Harley Dealer on the screen or POI list and push the "Go To" button and the GPS will route you directly to it. Fun stuff while on the road, don't want to miss those t-shirt opportunities. The POI feature is a very valuable one and has many other good uses as well.

You can get the Garmin POI loader software along with a detailed description of what POI's are all about here: http://www.garmin.com/products/poiloader/

2. 26XX users can use Harley Dealer waypoint files. 26XX units do not have a POI function available.

You can get the Harley Dealer POI/Waypoint database download from here: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=56474 (just scroll down the page list to "Dealerships").

There are other interesting POI databases available there as well.

The author of the Harley Dealer POI/Waypoint database will notify you when he updates it. You can get his email address from the README file part of his download. He does this work for free so be sure to thank him.

F. ADDING AN OPTIONAL AUXILLARY INPUT JACK TO THE BACK OF THE HARLEY RADIO. By adding this jack you can eliminate having the GPS audio connector on the front of your radio and route it to the back of the radio behind the fairing instead. This makes the overall installation a little cleaner but is a lot of work to do. Detailed procedure is here: http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1155785502


G. INTEGRATED AUDIO HOOK-UP:

If you have more than one external audio source these companies provide parts/services that will fully integrate your GPS/XM-Sirius radio/radar detector/cell phone/iPod/MP3 player etc. into you bike's audio system, if you want to explore that approach:

1. http://www.jmcorp.com/ProductDetail.asp?PF=6&ProductID=CFRG-HRUC

2. http://www.tesseractcorp.com/

3. http://www.goldwinggadgets.com/

4. http://www.cellset.com/Motorcycleitems.html

NOTE: Kennedy (cellset) parts may not work properly if a headlight modulator is being used.


H. OTHER WORTHWHILE INFORMATION:

1. Good additional 2720-2730 operational information not covered in the Owners Manual is located here: http://www.masterclass.com/guides/garmin2720/StreetPilot_27X0_HowTo.html

2. 2720's are now available refurbished with full factory warranty at a nice discount, just do a Google search. I have not seen any 2730 refurbs yet but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.

EDIT: As of 7/1/2006 we are no longer using a Radio Shack audio (voice navigation) patch cable setup and ground loop isolating modules used prior. Those parts were replaced by the newly available simple Isolation Cables that eliminate those multiple connections and significantly lower the connection cost.


Happy trails!
 
#2 ·
I just tried this morning hooking up my new Garmin 2720 on my 2005 Ultra using the Radio Shack patch cable described. Terrible hum on the Aux. (sounds like a propeller plane engine with the Garmin voice coming over it!). I did not think the 2005 and earlier Ultra radios had the "ground hum" problem?? Anyway, the voice prompts are not usable. Any suggestions?

Thanks

Jim
 
#3 · (Edited)
EDIT: AS OF 7/1/06 USING THE "GROUND LOOP" CORRECTING AND ISOLATING PARTS DISCUSSED BELOW ARE NO LONGER REQUIRED IF YOU USE THE SIMPLE ISOLATION CABLE DISCUSSED IN THE TOP POST ABOVE. THE ISOLATION CABLE NOW REPLACES ALL THE OTHER "GROUND LOOP" CORRECTING PARTS AMD ELIMINATES THE NEED TO TRY AND SOLVE AUDIO PROBLEMS BY ADJUSTING ADAPTER PIN LENGTHS ETC.

THE POSTS BELOW FROM 6/9 - 6/27 COVER THE OLD METHOD OF USING VARIOUS PARTS THAT ARE NO LONGER REQUIRED IF YOU USE THE ISOLATION CABLE. TO CORRECT ANY GROUND LOOP PROBLEMS I DO NOT RECOMMEND USE OF ANYTHING EXCEPT THE ISOLATION CABLE NOW DESCRIBED IN THE TOP POST OF THIS THREAD..


Jim,

Try pulling the patch cable adapter pin out out the Garmin audio plug in the harness slightly as described in A. 2. above. If that does not solve the problem it sounds like a ground loop that can be fixed by using the parts described in A. 3. above. You will like using the PN 3208 cable because it has a right angle connector going into your radio instead of the straight adapter, looks nicer.

I can tell you that a 2720 worked fine in a 2000 and 2003 Ultra without needing the ground loop parts. But we needed these parts in a 2006 Screamin Eagle Ultra.

ezrider
 
#5 ·
ezrider,

Thanks for the reply. Pulling the connector out a little does not help. What seemed to help some was just touching the positive tips of the connectors together (the negative wire, shield, is not continuous then) on the lead. I still have a low level hum on the Aux only. When both positive and negative sides are connected, I even have a loud hum on FM, AM, CD, everything!! I might try to cut the negative wire in the cable and see if I can tolerate that. Does that sound like it would work. My Ultra radio is the stock unit on the 2005 model.

Thanks

Jim
 
#6 · (Edited)
Try removing the RS adapter off the radio end of the cable, what happens then? The Garmin harness plug is 2.5mm mono audio and the radio is a 3.5mm stereo jack that is why we need the adapter on the Garmin end, the adapter on the radio end converts mono to stereo so you can get the audio thru all 4 bike speakers. I have never tried lifting the ground from the cable so I can't answer that question.

Really sounds like a ground loop problem to me.

Be careful about shorting things together, could damage your radio or GPS.
 
#7 ·
Regarless of the cable/connector I have, as long as the ground is continuous from the GPS to the Aux in, I have hum, even on the CD, AM, FM, etc. It is so bad on Aux, that I cannot understand the GPS voice when it speaks. When I break the ground link on the cable between the GPS and the Aux, I still have hum on Aux, but it is lower level and the GPS voice is good and it does not seem to exists at all on the CB, AM, FM, etc.

Sounds like a gound loop to me too. Should the parts you describe from The Electrical Connection fix this?
 
#9 ·
There has been a sh*t load of the Garmin cable harnesses (power and sound) that are faulty. My pal actually called Garmin on the issue and the person confirmed that the problem is probably in the wiring harness itself. I'm talking about the HUMMMMMMMM. The harness on my Ultra is faulty. When an earbud is plugged in, if I move the connection, the sound cuts in and out.......
 
#11 ·
ezrider,

Fixed the hum problem on my 2005 Ultra with the Garmin 2720 audio. Bought a Radio Shack Audio Isolation Transformer, 273-1374, ($3.99) and soldered it in line on the audio cable. Works like a champ!! No hum, just perfect audio from the Garmin 2720 on the Aux. Taped the transformer up (it is very tiny, about the size of the end of my little finger) and put it inside the flairing with the routing of the audio cable. Not sure I would recommend the above transformer for anything but the 2720 as the frequency response is only 300-5000Hz, but it passes the 2720 voice perfectly.

Jim
 
#12 · (Edited)
#14 ·
EZRider

WOW, great thread. I just bought a 2730 and am awaiting delivery. I have been researching mount options and have been influenced by your experiences and recommendations. I was also unaware of the specifics you discuss regarding install. I own a 2006 Ultra and was glad you shared your experience with it as well.

I am going to print this off and use you during install.

Thank you for spending the time to go to such excrutiating detail and also providing the links to part numbers. great job man.

Ill let you know how the install goes.

Steve
 
#16 ·
wiring transformer

Hello and thank you for this information on the transformer there are 4 wires

white black yellow and red how do i wire that up? I do have the garmin cable but not sure on how to proceed thanks
 
#17 · (Edited)
EDIT: As of 7/1/2006 using the "ground loop" correcting and isolation parts is no longer required.

There are now newly available simple ground loop correcting Isolation Cables that replace all the ground loop correcting parts mentioned in this thread. Original post #1 of this thread has been updated with the correct information regarding the source for the Isolation Cables:
http://www.v-twinforum.com/forums//showthread.php?t=80707
 
#18 ·
You do need to be careful, if you are unsure as to the electrical connections. With the Radio Shack isolation transformer 273-1374, which is only $3.99, you have to solder it in line with the audio patch cord. This requires cutting the patch cord. If you get it wrong, you may short out the audio signal from the GPS or radio and cause some permanent damage. You are probably better off following the directions in the first post, since it is basically "plug n' play". If you do know something about audio/wiring/soldering/electonic circuits and are confident, then you connect the input to the black and white wires and the output to the yellow and red wires. It works great on my 05' Ultra.

Jim
 
#19 ·
Garmin on RK classic

Has anyone mounted the Garmin 2730 on a RK Classic? I have a RK with a J&M2003 handlebar mounted CB. I've picked up the audio/power hardwire cable and the gps cradle from Garmin. Wondering if any problems mounting gps or antennae? Will I be able to utilize the XM radio? Thanks

EasyE
2005 RK Classic
 
#21 ·
Hey guys..

I have been running my 2730 for about a month now. I love it. Much more useful than the Quest I had before. I was running a Roady 2 before and do miss some of the XM features though.

Here is my question. Why have I gone through 2 ground loop isolators with this thing. I had the Kennedy one and after awhile the audio was all messed up. I replaced it with a Radio Shack one that I added into the patch cord and that one only lasted a few hours. Running a straight through audio cable, I do get some low humming through the speakers but other than that is works like a charm.

I wired up a multiple powerpoint to the back of the lighter and have the Garmin plugged into that.

Brad
 
#22 · (Edited)
Brad,

What year is your bike?

Some Ultra's don't have a ground loop problem at all and don't need any ground loop correcting parts. So far we know that 2003 and 2000 Ultra's work fine without ground loop correcting parts with both 2720's and 2730's but, 2006 Screamin Eagle Ultra's with a 2720 do need the ground loop correcting parts.

We have used this ground loop isolator and cable on three different bikes: PN03205 & PN03208 from here: http://www.electricalconnection.com/audio/noise-filters.htm and none have failed: http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-SPSC-7
 
#23 ·
ezrider said:
What year is your bike?
Some Ultra's don't have a ground problem at all and don't need any ground loop correcting parts. [/url]
Mine is an '04 Ultra and if I run without a GLI I get a slight hum in my Aux mode only. I can only hear it if the bike is not running. I have a Hogtunes amp installed and I added an AUX. input in the rear of the stock radio. I wonder if that has anything to do with the GLI failing?

Brad
 
#24 ·
This may be total BS but...I have been reading and reading and reading all kinds of reviews, forums, bbs's, etc about the 2730. I remember reading somewhere along the way that someone had the audio problems and solved it by going into the menus of the unit and changing the output from the audio jack. Apparantly you can switch between line out and headphone and switching it to headphone fixed the audio. Keep in mind I don't own one yet and may have miss-interpeted it but maybe I didn't and I've read so much it's all running together.