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What a racket! I had a 10 year career in auto repair so I'm no stranger to expensive tools. The only thing I didn't get from the tool dealers was a kiss when I left :D But I'm tellin ya - these H-D service tools make a Snap-on dealer look like a skid row slut in comparison!

Ennyway, my 01 RC started marking it's territory with trans lube. After a few clean-ups and test drives and contortions with a mirror, I discovered the shifter seal leaking. I decided since the chaincase had to come off I am going to replace every damn deal under it.

Well as some of you probably know, there's a few nice tools that make this job a little easier. I go into not one, but two H-D dealers and get the glassy-eyed stare when I ask about tools. One guy pushed an aftermarket catalog over and said he could order what I needed if it was in the book. So I bought my Big Bag of Gaskets and Seals and headed home. I figure the dealers want me buying a share of their service business instead of tools. Besides that, I think I was the only customer in there buying parts not made of chrome or leather.

Next I figure I can find my tools on the Internet. There's a few automotive specialty tools I've picked up from online vendors so I figure they ought to have scooter tools too. There I go thinking again :rolleyes:. If I bought the stuff to do this job I would be in for close to $400 and that was no real discount from the dealer who is basically pocketing 40% of the sale for the service of placing a GD phone call for me and being there when the UPS guy shows up next week :mad:. All that money for a few seal drivers, pulley holders, and a fancy bolt grip puller/press for the mainshaft bearing race.

So far I have just about recouped (again) the entire cost of my angle grinder and MIG welder by making my own tools. The prices on both the H-D OEM tools (which don't seem to exist by the way) and aftermarket equivalents are not just high, they are outrageous! My total investment so far has been a $20 socket and $10 worth of pipe and hardware from the Ace up the street. A puller/press KIT that does a similar job as the "H-D mainshaft bearing race tool" for automotive power steering pulleys goes for $60 and does 80% of the pumps that exist. The H-D tool sells for $160. The only thing missing is the parts guy wearing a mask and holding a gun while you are robbed.

* whew * I feel better now :)

thanks for reading my rant
 

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Jims and Trock make the best aftermarket tools for Harleys.

You can buy them HERE at better prices. Go to the online catalog and tool section.

Many can be home made or substituted if you just work on the bike ocasionally, but there are a few areas where the risk isn't worth the savings. No problem if you have good judgment.
 

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Thanks for the link Hippo, any good places to purchase service manuals at a discount better than 10%?
 

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HIPPO said:
Jims and Trock make the best aftermarket tools for Harleys.

You can buy them HERE at better prices. Go to the online catalog and tool section.

Many can be home made or substituted if you just work on the bike ocasionally, but there are a few areas where the risk isn't worth the savings. No problem if you have good judgment.
Yeah... I can see it if you're talking a precision, truly unique (i.e. only works on one application) item like a bushing reamer or something. What chaps me is the fact that the items I made (versus buying) were really low-tech pulling and press tools. I had a pittman arm puller that would have worked if the arms had been 2" longer to reach over the mainshaft. As a matter of fact, I just got back from the dealer with a $15 mainshaft nut. No, not because I "loosened" it the wrong way :D. When I get home I am welding a bolt to my old one to press the bearing race back on using the precisionmade Piece Of Galvanized Pipe that fits it. The new nut will hold the clutch pack on when I'm done. The only reason I bought the H-D part is that left hand thread on the mainshaft.

At least when they sell this load of poop to the career mechanics, it can be justified as a lifetime purchase and a time saver (i.e. return on investment when working flat-rate jobs) - even though it's no more right to screw the pro buyer than the do-it-yourselfer.
 

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JFScheck- I got my manual from fasthog.com or you can call 845-564-5400x120 and ask for Chris Wells. Got mine for $38 + shipping N.Y. to Cal. Sure beats the $62 elsewhere. Got it in 3 days also.
Dan
 

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I hear you with the tools, but there are a few applications where the downside is too big, even if 9 work and the 10th fails, like with the inner cam bearings for example. I'm a junkyard dog by nature but I know when to hold them. LOL.

If you do stuff for yourself it's one thing, but in todays environment you have to document everything.
 
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