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I got my hands on a used V&H ProPipe with full heat shields,
but the seller
didn't know what baffles where in it,
so I wonder if anyone can help me out here please
and tell the difference in the competition vs the "ordinary" one
and how to visually se what I got :wacko:
 

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Check this out. J&P Cycles. Has all the Vance & Hines Propipe baffles..Competition & Standard. Very reasonable prices.

http://www.jpcycles.com/productgroup.aspx?GID=2E9066A9-3195-4365-B339-7710DCCCB292

If you have stage 1 or Stage 2 it doesn't matter whether the pipe has the comp or standard. Most likely your pipe has the Standard. Don't sweat it, just put the pipe on and enjoy the sound and the performance. I can find more info about the Propipe if you need it. Let me know.

Semper Fi,
Steve...Pensacola
USMC 1972 - 2003
 

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Your pipe more than likely has the standard baffle. If you look into it
with a light and it appears to be closed at about 10-12" it is standard.
This is the one you want unless you are racing all the time.
Take a look at the jp site posted by steveusmc and you will see a pic
of the standard baffle.
The competition baffle is way too open for normal street riding and will
kill your low end riding.
 

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Zeb,

Nvsteve described it right. If you need it - I'll pull mine out, take a pic and send it to you.

Note that on my standard baffle, I drilled about a 1/2 inch hole in the middle of the baffle in order to get the 02 sniffer up the pipe. I later used a nut/bolt/washers to re-seal it. The previous owner may have done the same mod to yours.

Good to see you're moving ahead with your build!


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Thanks guys , much appreciated:thumbsup:

I don't have the bike here, but as I recall the baffle is
closed at about 6 inch ...:hmmm:

The reason I ask is that I put it on my bike and the overall
performance dropped significant, both low and high response dropped....
I did not rejet my carb before the swap, just wanted to
try it on and se how it sounded and performed.

My old pipes where SE slipons
95"
10.25:1
SE 203
CV44
SE Race ign. 7000rpm

At first I thought the bike turned dead ugly:ntlgh: with the Pro pipe
but I've getting used to the look more and more , as most people here say:Banadance
The sound of the pipe is very different, the slipons are really loud
compared to the Pro pipe, especially when driving,
could it be that it's all a subjective feeling due to the different sound
comming out of the pipes ???
I doubt that it could be the whole story to it though...
The crispy feeling of the bike was just gone :crying:

Proper jetting might cure it, just didn't thought the pipes
where that different when it comes to jetting

I'll will take the baffle out this evening and check if it is drilled (thanks GC)
The new build is still in progress (it's all over the place at the moment:D )
wish it was summer soon though...
 

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vt-zeb said:
Thanks guys , much appreciated:thumbsup:

I don't have the bike here, but as I recall the baffle is
closed at about 6 inch ...:hmmm:

The reason I ask is that I put it on my bike and the overall
performance dropped significant, both low and high response dropped....
I did not rejet my carb before the swap, just wanted to
try it on and se how it sounded and performed.

My old pipes where SE slipons
95"
10.25:1
SE 203
CV44
SE Race ign. 7000rpm

At first I thought the bike turned dead ugly:ntlgh: with the Pro pipe
but I've getting used to the look more and more , as most people here say:Banadance
The sound of the pipe is very different, the slipons are really loud
compared to the Pro pipe, especially when driving,
could it be that it's all a subjective feeling due to the different sound
comming out of the pipes ???
I doubt that it could be the whole story to it though...
The crispy feeling of the bike was just gone :crying:

Proper jetting might cure it, just didn't thought the pipes
where that different when it comes to jetting

I'll will take the baffle out this evening and check if it is drilled (thanks GC)
The new build is still in progress (it's all over the place at the moment:D )
wish it was summer soon though...
Try closing off a row of the holes in the baffle with a stainless hose
clamp. Very easy to do. If it helps, try closing off another row
and see if it gets even better.
Be sure to use some blue locktite on the screw.
 

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Zeb -

Mine ran the same until it was tuned. For that reason, I held off installing the PP until I went dyno tune day. HUGE difference after the tune.

As far as noise... I liked how mine was relatively quiet until I cranked on it - then it barked. That was before I blew al the packing out of it - now it barks all the time!


GC
 

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FXDRYDR said:
As far as noise... I liked how mine was relatively quiet until I cranked on it - then it barked. That was before I blew al the packing out of it - now it barks all the time!

GC
And the packing is really easy to replace. I just bought a package of packing fiberglass sheets (about 3/4" thick) from my local Honda dealer. I cut it in appropriate sized strips and it fits and works well.

T113
 

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I pulled it out and , yes ! four rows of holes standard baffle it is.
-Thanks ViennaHog & good luck on your new build mate.

I will probably wait to tinker with the baffle until my first dyno is done
but I will keep that in mind.:thumbsup:

So I aint the only one with that kind of experience of a non jetted PP bike,
that was reassuring news.
As far as noise... I liked how mine was relatively quiet until I cranked on it -
then it barked. That was before I blew al the packing out of it - now it barks all the time!
I like that part GC :brows: :D :D
and thanks for the pic offer.

zeb
 

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So I aint the only one with that kind of experience of a non jetted PP bike,
that was reassuring news.
I just put a Pro-Pipe on my Dyna and had the same result: Felt gutless below 3500. But it was strong above 3500. So I closed off the first row of holes in the baffle and that brought back the low end. It is clearly jetted too rich right now but I'm going to hold off tuning it until I get the MagnaCharger installed. No use spending the dough tuning it for only a month or less.

And yeah the look was a bit different at first.

Oh, by the way, WTF is up with the packing shooting out around the end-cap? I've had the pipe on for a week and every time I ride it there is more packing sticking out... :rolleyes:
 

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Oh, by the way, WTF is up with the packing shooting out around the end-cap? I've had the pipe on for a week and every time I ride it there is more packing sticking out... :rolleyes:
Put a strip of aluminum or stainless steel window screen under the packing and another strip on top. Add a couple wraps of some small gauge wire around it to hold it in place. The fiberglass screen under the packing that comes with the pipe soon will be half burnt out and the packing will blow out through the baffle holes. Mine also blew fiberglass out the crack between the end cap and pipe.
I had the same experience with loss of low end, hose clamp fixed it.
 

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Is that tiny strip of packing worth the effort? How much difference does it make to just take it out?
 
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