@gree: .crash1292 said:i beleave the assembly order has changed,causing the pri chain to be located farther away from the cases,this puts more of a load on the bearing
Where do you get the idea that this is beta testing? They tell you up front that the bearing needs to be replaced every 15,000 miles. They don't say it might need to be replaced, or that it needs to be inspected, or that they are hoping everything will be fine... the wording is very clear - It needs to be replaced. It looks to me like they've already done the testing and they decided that the part has a 15,000 mile lifespan.Geezer-Glide said:Some will say that it's nice the MoCo is being right up front and honest about needing to replace/repair the bearing. My opinion is don't release a new design until IT'S BEEN THOROUGHLY TESTED!!! I don't feel like being a beta tester for their new designs. (Of course I'd take the job if they PAID me to do it!) Get it right, then release it for cryin' out loud.
What about the people who bought the '04s with the bad valve seals? Or how about the people with the '00s who got the bad cam bearing? The list could go on and on. Not being argumentative here, just not understanding the big deal over this. The service is free. It's free for the life of the bike. You could probably pick any year of HD and find some type of issue, whether it be a bad gasket, a bearing or something else. They're still great bikes. HD may find a permanent fix, or this may become a standard required service on future bikes. Only time will tell.timbo said:I feel sorry for people buying these bikes used in the next year or two. Even though it's not on their dime, the issue will certainly be a surprise. And a big PITA. Especially when the salesman or owner/seller doesn't inform them of the service procedure. I'd be one mad sob if that bearing decided to take a dump at 4,000 miles from home and then I find out it's some sort of cinnamon coated turd with a BS Harley service bulletin to make the medicine go down better. Crap is crap! .
This only concerns the 2006 Dynas. These machines were fitted with the new six-speed direct drive transmission. They have higher primary gearing to match the ratios in the transmisison. They moved the chain and both sprockets outside to make everything fit and now there is so much strain on the primary sprocket that they recommend changing it every 15K miles.The Tourist said:This information seems to address issues on the 2006 Dyna. Which begs a few questions.
Is this a major design flaw in Dynas?
If so, why does this cover only 2006 Dynas?
If this is a problem for 2006 Dynas only, why doesn't my 2004 Dyna need the service?
If my 2004 Dyna does need the service for the same problem, why isn't it covered under the same plan?
Why is this manager/biker writing on pink paper?
I'm confused.
Nobody...Not Harley..nor Honda..nor Briggs and Stratton...would design or use a bearing for that purpose with a 15,000 mile life span. they frankly dont know how long they will last...they obviously figure at least 15,000. So when they look at a couple thousand, they may make a change or may see no need to continue the free replacement. That is Beta testing. Makes sense why they released the new design in the lowest selling twin cam line. Costs will be less for the beta testing...and the bite in the A** wont hurt as much if they start failing before 15,000.JamieWG said:Where do you get the idea that this is beta testing? They tell you up front that the bearing needs to be replaced every 15,000 miles. They don't say it might need to be replaced, or that it needs to be inspected, or that they are hoping everything will be fine... the wording is very clear - It needs to be replaced. It looks to me like they've already done the testing and they decided that the part has a 15,000 mile lifespan.
"Nobody.. not Harley... etc.." "If the best they could do was a 15,000 mile bearing..."SYCLONE said:Nobody...Not Harley..nor Honda..nor Briggs and Stratton...would design or use a bearing for that purpose with a 15,000 mile life span. they frankly dont know how long they will last...they obviously figure at least 15,000. So when they look at a couple thousand, they may make a change or may see no need to continue the free replacement. That is Beta testing. Makes sense why they released the new design in the lowest selling twin cam line. Costs will be less for the beta testing...and the bite in the A** wont hurt as much if they start failing before 15,000.
See , if the best they could do was a 15,000 mile bearing, And it was across the model line..I dont see Harley replacing bearings on 350,000 motorcyles for free every 15,000 miles.
Yes, they are up front about it. If it doesnt bother you then that is a good thing ..its your money and your bike, Beta testing can be a good thing.