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Anyone know how to remove swirl marks from black paint? I would like to try to avoid having it reprinted if I could. A light bit if wax sometimes hides it in the right light but a lot are still visible
 

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I had same issue last week. Tried this product called HD SPEED, has nothing to do with Harley. Companys number is 877-343-3273, they probably have dealers everywhere. I have a black King that had some swirl and light scratches from wiping on the road. This product with a foam pad, made the bike look great!!
 

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If the swirls are in the Clear coat instead of the paint itself there are any number of products at your favorite Auto Parts store that will do the trick. Pay them a visit.
 

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Picked up some scratch and swirl remover from the auto parts store. Used a small electric buffer and worked it around for about a half hour then applied a layer of wax it worked pretty good didn't get everything out but what can you expect for a bike that is 12 years old.
 

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I've gotten good results using Greg Mac D's & Blackened's methods. Swirls in H-D Vivid Black, or any gloss black FTM are a beeotch and may never look perfect again without wet sanding, refinishing with fresh clear coat layer.

FWIW, I don't ever touch my black car's or bike's sheetmetal with anything orbital...and, I think twice before using on wheels.

 

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Scrubs where can I find the method you mentioned?
Alex, the only place that I'd trust to work this method on my vehicles is a high-end paint and body shop; and will be costly. Have you tried the clay bar, as Greg MacD suggested? I'd try that before shelling out the bones. BTW, what color is your bike? Turtle wax makes an inexpensive color wax that is decent and may fill in the swirl channels. Finish with a quality wax and then polish.

Another route is to double post your question (moderators discourage this) in the Sheetmetal/Custom Painting VTF threads; although you might actually ping a paint specialist. I'm a rank amateur...a pretty good amateur but rank nonetheless.
 

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The only way you're going to get swirl marks out without a repaint is to wet sand or polish (not wax) them out.
Wet sand and polish would be faster,straight polish a little safer but a lot longer.
If you take it to a shop they will probably wet sand it.
If you choose to wet sand, pick up some 3000 grit foam backed paper, soak it in a bucket for several hours.
Keeping everything very wet, sand in a front to back motion, lightly...let the paper cut the paint, no need to bear down and force it. Sand like this until you have removed the swirls.
After you've finished, wash the paint off, and using an abrasive polish (like meguires ultimate compound), apply the polish to a foam applicator and continue to rub out the paint in a front to back, back and fourth motion. You're ok to bear down some now, and you'll feel the pad getting warm. I usually continue with the rub until the polish has mostly rubbed into the pad and I start hearing a "squeak" from the surface as I rub it.
Following that, remove the polish with a clean microfiber cloth, and give it a coat of sealant (again, meguires is good. Look for their synthetic wax), and follow up with a carnauba paste.
If you choose not to sand, just do the same thing I listed above with the abrasive polish, just for a lot longer.
Clay bar will remove fallout and help prep for wax, but it will never take swirls out.
I spent a lot of years detailing cars, and the method above will restore some really F****d up paint, and it's pretty safe.
Just take it easy, and remember straight motions. Little circles cause swirls. This applies to everthing from sand to wax and clay.
Hope this helps.
 

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if your useing the clay bay put a sheet of plastic on the gnd under the part of the bike your working on. so if you drop the bar it won't get grit in it.lb
 

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I've used a ton of paint products over the years. You can hide the swirl marks with polish and wax but I've found that Menzerna products SF4000 or SF 4500 with my HF dual action buffer works the best on my black bikes and vehicles.
 

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3M Finesse-ll Finishing Material Not cheap. It is a machine polish but I have hand jobed it. (no remarks please) Does a great job. not sure about removing swirls but don't see why not.
 

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The only way you're going to get swirl marks out without a repaint is to wet sand or polish (not wax) them out.
Wet sand and polish would be faster,straight polish a little safer but a lot longer.
If you take it to a shop they will probably wet sand it.
If you choose to wet sand, pick up some 3000 grit foam backed paper, soak it in a bucket for several hours.
Keeping everything very wet, sand in a front to back motion, lightly...let the paper cut the paint, no need to bear down and force it. Sand like this until you have removed the swirls.
After you've finished, wash the paint off, and using an abrasive polish (like meguires ultimate compound), apply the polish to a foam applicator and continue to rub out the paint in a front to back, back and fourth motion. You're ok to bear down some now, and you'll feel the pad getting warm. I usually continue with the rub until the polish has mostly rubbed into the pad and I start hearing a "squeak" from the surface as I rub it.
Following that, remove the polish with a clean microfiber cloth, and give it a coat of sealant (again, meguires is good. Look for their synthetic wax), and follow up with a carnauba paste.
If you choose not to sand, just do the same thing I listed above with the abrasive polish, just for a lot longer.
Clay bar will remove fallout and help prep for wax, but it will never take swirls out.
I spent a lot of years detailing cars, and the method above will restore some really F****d up paint, and it's pretty safe.
Just take it easy, and remember straight motions. Little circles cause swirls. This applies to everthing from sand to wax and clay.
Hope this helps.
Great instructions!!!
 
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