Hi Softailman. Yest this is Terrya12 AKA Nochrome. The name change was because I forgot my password and had to reregister. Anyway my bars are mini apes at 12.5 inches, $75.00 CDN. They are setup on 2 inch straight risers, $65.00 CDN. Both items were purchased at the local HD shop. The reason for this setup was cost. This is about the max in hieght you can go using the existing cables and wiring, just swap and go. Can be done in about one hour and several minutes. All I did was take the stock bars off with wires cables ect all attached and set them on the front headlight with a towel. Transfered the switch housings ect over to the new bars then mounted them to the new risers. An extra set of hands come in handy but not needed if your careful. You will need to straighten out the front brake line by hand very gently or you could crack it ( take your time). As for the ride, I'm 5' 11" so my arms come straight across and mirrors are just above eye level so I like the set up very much. Arms are not so high that they fall asleep on long trips and you still have plenty of controle of the bike. I have had this setup for three years now and have no plans on changing it. I also sit lower with the Badlander seat that is lower than the stock seat. This all adds to the seating position. Hope this helps.