Thanks for the helpful replies. hdmd88, do you mean that the SE pipes don't give higher performance -- just more noise? Thanks for any clarification you can give me.hdmd88 said:The S/E pipes are for the rider that wants more sound....the S/E IIs are for the rider that wants sound and performance together.
Thanks for your reply...be safe riding, and Happy Holidays to you too.Gooms said:HDMD88, my post was not directed toward your comments at all. On the contrary, I value your past inputs from other posts and have read nothing but great comments from others. So if it came across that way, I sincerely apologize. BTW, it is an old high school buddy and long term friend that is retired from 22 years in the parts division. I may have posted odd due to the turkey day festivities.
It seems recently with the tremondous growth in bike ownership, especially v-twins, you'll see so many responses to posted questions and concerns. A great majority being just utter nonsense and crap. It's the very select few as yourself, that add meaningful info and thoughts in these types of forums, that is greatly appreciated.
It stopped raining, so I'm going puttin'. Happy Holidays!
The packing in the SE-IIs is not wrapped around the baffle tube. It covers the inside of the outer muffler body. The baffle can be pulled out, leaving the packing around the inside of the muffler. This it the SE-II Dyna slipons and I know this to be fact on those from the '03 and '04 catalogs. Not sure about 05s and later, I have no firsthand experience with those. After time, the packing gets coated with carbon and the higher pitched raspiness returns.longshadow said:From my experience, the original Screaming Eagle mufflers are definately louder than the SEII's. They have a much higher frequency tone that has a "raspiness" to it. The SEII's have a fibreglass type of packing around the baffle tube, (the SE's have no packing) that takes out a lot of the "raspy" sound and gives the exhaust a much lower frequency tone. I have found the SEII's more tolerable to my ears on a long ride, and they are "neighborhood friendly". Its easy to modify the II's for a little more sound too. That's my contribution, hope it helps. Longshadow
previous owner of my Sporty cut the rear baffle tube to only 2 inches. I recently removed the inner steel-wrapped tubing to get Wyatt Gatling 3 inch quiet baffles to slide in. If I were to cut down the steel wrapped tube so that the Gatling 3 inch quiet baffle met up to it would there be any benefit.Gooms, if that statment was directed at me I will reply with this. I order and use all the S/E II pipes for Softails, Dynas,Sportys, and Road Kings in my Screamin' Eagle class room. Every Pipe I have recieved since they went with the name S/E Pro II in 2004 have had a woven steel packing sournding the removable baffle. Its the same baffle design as the old style S/EII pipe that don't have the woven steel insert. Both Pipes are great performers and both are very tuneable. The plain S/E slip-on I was refering to only has Screamin'Eagle on the rear pipe.....the better preformer will have Screamin'Eagle II on the rear pipe.
It might be that you recived a back stocked set of S/EII pipes without the woven steel insert not the S/E ProIIs so before you start with the ''unbeliveable'' response thing, be sure you didn't get a previous 2004 set of pipes on your softail. Just because you bought them in 2005 doesn't mean it was made in 2005...you being a 22 year veterian in parts should know these things happen. Now I also know HD doesn't put all their eggs in the same basket, meaning they have more than one mgr and supplier for their parts.....if one supplier is making the pipes different than the other supplier I will stand corrected.
Other than that your post was good and accurate on the cross over gasket and sounds from sloppy work. Thank you Sir
HDMD88 last posted in 05 do you think he is still alive? Got to watch the dates on some threads. I have got caught up in old posts too until I realized I never heard of the posters.laughing.previous owner of my Sporty cut the rear baffle tube to only 2 inches. I recently removed the inner steel-wrapped tubing to get Wyatt Gatling 3 inch quiet baffles to slide in. If I were to cut down the steel wrapped tube so that the Gatling 3 inch quiet baffle met up to it would there be any benefit.