Ican't see how the s/e pies can get louder.They have a large heavy baffle and do not have any sound deadening material.DCRANER said:I have the 16 Gauge and really like them.
The V&H are really loud, the 16 Gauge is made by V&H but with a much larger crossover chamber. This tones down the sound, which is what I wanted, but after about 1,000 miles the 16 Gauge developes a little deeper sound, I like that, and not as loud (car alarms set off) as the Big Shots.
My friend has the SE ll slip-ons, louder than my 16 Gauge when mine were new, but close to same sound with some miles on them.
I think the larger crossover chamber is better for low to mid range response, whereas the V&H with small crossover chamber probably makes more power at the top end. That is my guess.
Hope this makes sense.
Maybe this will help as I have about 1,000 miles on my 16 Gauge;Markfatboy05 said:Oldjime,
Thanks for the info, let me know how they sound at 70, I really like the V&H, but I worry a little about them being a little to loud...I see around town here guys almost baby em because they are pretty loud. Also, the SE's are not popular around here, so I would like to be different.
How were these to put on, I see to always screw stuf up when I do it, but this seems straight forward, let m know how the install was,
DCRANERDCRANER said:Maybe this will help as I have about 1,000 miles on my 16 Gauge;
The 16 Gauge IS the V&H BS, but with a larger crossover chamber, so the result is, IMHO, the same look but not as loud as the V&H.
V&H BS = Drag race car sound
16 Gauge = Street Muscle car sound
Right on, I do also like mine. Just the right mix of looks, sound, and performance..................you can live with.oldjime said:DCRANER
No opinion on V&H but agree with you on 16 Ga sound.
Idle = Muscle car at idle sound
Acceleration = Small Block V8 with Glass Packs. Seems to blend individual cylinder exhaust pulses so it sound more like a V4 or V8 than a twin.
Cruise = Small Block V8 with Glass Packs. Much less bothersome than SE II slipons. Probably because exhaust extend almost to rear axle.
Reall good low end grunt. Thrid gear standing start requires slight touch of clutch to prevent engine shake. Second gear starts no problem. First gear walking speed very smooth.
Only nit so far is you can see discoloration where expansion chamber is not covered by heat shields Not noticable unless you are looking for it.
Think I'll keep em.