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Here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...d=1,1&item=4605939452&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT

I've been thinking about doing a salvage Dyna or Soft Tail for a project. I'd like to have a smaller bike to run around town with when I don't want to take the Road Glide. I'm a fair hand with a wrench, and can read a service manual.

This bike looks pretty lightly hit, why would the insurance company total this scooter? Is it just me, or does the rear end look tweaked in pic #7?

From what the seller describes, and the pics, all that is needed is a carb, air cleaner, pipes, derby cover, cam cover, rear brake bracket and a repaint on the tank and rear fender. Most of these (stock) parts go for cheap on eBay...

What am I missing here? :huh:

Thanks
Dan
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I have buddy that buys/sells salvaged bikes. He gets some that are just scratched up the have been totaled. One of the insurance companies he buys from will total a bike if the rider/passenger dies. He recently bought a totaled Road King that only had some mud on it. The bike had ran off the road. The passenger hit her head on a fence post killing her. They totaled the bike even though it had no damage.
I would never buy a salvage bike without a visual inspection,too many things could be overlooked.when I was doing salvage bikes I bought them from a insurance salvage broker not a bike shop that dealt on the side with salvage bikes.you ask what are you missing here,well for one you get a salvage title wich means while youre rebuilding you have to keep all your reciepts they better be legit cuz your going to have too have it inspected,in my state Ohio, that was done by the state troopers and they did not fook around!Do you like dealing with goverment there is alot of paperwork,notorizing mailing waiting etc.also the word salvage used too stay on the title,but with the internet and co's like car facts potential buyers will know it was at one time in a wreck.like anything its doable but there is some bullshit to deal with I made some good $$ doing it. GOOD LUCK
Take a good look at the pics from the rear. Something looks
amiss in pic # 8. Kinda looks like something is really phuked
up . Check the angle of the tire to the angle of the shocks
and fender. If it was me, I would stay away from it. Just my
two pennies.

dzlfitr
Have you checked with your state DMV? Different rules in different states, for example, in Oregon, you can NEVER reregister a salvage titled vehicle from any other state.
Yes, the rear end looks somehow tweeked to me also.
Don't have much to spend on 2nd bike? Look for an early 90's evo fxr, great bikesnand can be found for under 8K in great shape if you keep your eye out.....
here's an example of one that sold recently on ebay and real close to you to pick-up...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993...ryZ49993QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Check this twin cam out w/107hp!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1999...ryZ49993QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Couple of things. If you ever plan to sell it, I wouldn't buy it. Resale will suffer heavily for having a salvage title. Secondly, if you're not paying cash, you may find it hard to get a loan for a bike with a salvage title.
Also, you will never be able to insure it except fo liability
not true

adlerx said:
Also, you will never be able to insure it except fo liability
My 92 FLHTC was a salvage, believe it or not. When it was done it was insured for 12,500 value. Never had a claim on it to check out how much they'd bitch about it. If you buy ANY H-D with perhaps a bent frame or cracked engine cases, you can go to your local dealer and order NEW frame or cases w/ same numbers, for the framme, you cut off the neck (w/ the #'s) and send it back. You get back a factory fresh part back, w/ matching numbers. If you can buy the bike right (read that as cheap), there is nothing wrong with a salvage title. Especially if you build it to ride it, and not as a investment...although i got $12,000 for mine when I sold it...
Tim
Thanks for the input, everyone.

All good points. I'm not looking for a bike to repair, sell and turn a profit. Just a project bike I can fool with , and have a nice bar hopper to play with when I'm done. Yeah, there are cheap evo's out there, but I like the idea of a nearly new scooter with low miles.

As far as getting it registered and titled, that's not a problem in Nevada. Buy it with a salvage title, repair it properly and have it inspected by a Nevada licensed mechanic. He fills out a DMV 64 form and the DMV issues a rebuilt title. I have a good friend who is a certified licensed HD mechanic, so that's not an issue. I called my insurance company, they said no problem, as long as all the inspections are done, and the rebuilt title is issued.

I am a bit concerned about the rear end of the bike, or any other hidden damage. Anyone live in PA that could take a look at it for me???

Thanks again
Dan
The other concern I have is the shipping cost. I paid $525 to have a bike shipped from Seattle to LV. I'm sure PA to NV would be over a grand...
Look Local

I'd be willing to bet that you could find a similar deal close to you as opposed to buying that one. There are plenty of people who deal in rebuildable salvages...I also think that if you are in Las Vegas, there are local auctions specifically dealing with insurance sales. I'd look some more locally....
I'd stay away from a salvage title. Most of them are totalled due to doubt about the frame or clearly bent frame. It's not worth the grief IMHO.
Looking at the rear shot and the overhead from the rear shot there is a definate tweak there. Maybe swingarm maybe frame tough to tell from the picture. In Pa you can get the recon title if you have patience and do everything right just to discover the awful ins. premium.

If you are intent on this look here on a regular basis
www.ridesafely.com
Again, thanks to all for the input. I'm gonna let this one pass, and take 1bdBagr's advise. I'll look for one in the southwest, and find a trailer to drag it home.

There's some interesting bikes on the ridesafely site, thanks for the link, machinist.

The Katrina flood bikes are interesting, but could end up more of a problem than they're worth, if they sat in salt water for any lenght of time...:hmmm:
Sinking in salt water is death to the electrical system and perhaps thats all. Worked on restoring a Hatteras that sank at its mooring in a storm years ago. Everything submerged electrically was done. Diesels and trannys were fine. Cables and steering gear were fine.
I woundn't buy one blind.
possible connection

ZR1Dan said:
Again, thanks to all for the input. I'm gonna let this one pass, and take 1bdBagr's advise. I'll look for one in the southwest, and find a trailer to drag it home.

There's some interesting bikes on the ridesafely site, thanks for the link, machinist.

The Katrina flood bikes are interesting, but could end up more of a problem than they're worth, if they sat in salt water for any lenght of time...:hmmm:
One of my buddies usta buy bikes out of Vegas thru an dealer auction. I'll look him up and see if he knows some one in your area that will sell/ or look for (then sell you) a bike running thru the insurance auctions. As I previously mentioned, as far as a bent frame goes....BFD. You disassemble the bike and cut off the neck. You go to your local dealer...he orders you a brand new OEM hd frame w/ matching numbers. You reassemble...and have a straight like new bike. You just have to "buy it right" (cheep) so you can afford to buy the new frame. Do everything else on e-bay, and get a bike to make "your way" from the start. I don't care what anybody says....salvage is not that big of a deal. You document the whole process. If you ever sell it...somebody knows they're not getting a POS. The key is to buy it as cheap as you possibly can...try to eliminate as many middlemen as possible...each step or layer adds a few bucks. If I can get you a number...I'll PM you. Good Luck.
Tim
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