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Giuliani: I Support Right to Bear Arms


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Sep 21, 9:19 PM (ET)

By LIBBY QUAID

(AP) Republican presidential hopeful, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani delivers remarks to the...
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WASHINGTON (AP) - Republican Rudy Giuliani sought to reassure the National Rifle Association of his support for a constitutional right to bear arms as rivals Fred Thompson, John McCain and Mike Huckabee contended the former New York mayor is no friend of gun owners.

In a direct appeal Friday to the powerful lobbying group, Thompson, McCain and Huckabee stressed their backing for gun rights and record of siding with the NRA. Giuliani, who once referred to the NRA as "extremists," tried to explain his shifting views on the issue.

The NRA's support is prized as the group blankets its 4 million members with ads, mailings and phone calls. Before the 2008 election, it hopes to increase its numbers.

"I'd like us to respect each other; I think we have very, very legitimate and mostly similar views," Giuliani told NRA members, who clapped politely a dozen times during his 20-minute speech.


(AP) Republican presidential hopeful, former Sen. Fred Thompson, R-Tenn., delivers remarks to the...
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Giuliani also tried to explain why, as mayor, he joined a lawsuit by several cities against the gun industry, arguing that manufacturers and distributors made it too easy for criminals to get guns.

On Friday, he said the ongoing lawsuit "has taken several turns and several twists I don't agree with."

Giuliani, an outspoken proponent of gun control during his eight years as mayor, said Friday he agrees with a recent federal court ruling that overturned a 30-year-old ban on private ownership of handguns in Washington, D.C. He added that he would appoint judges who take a similarly strict view of the Constitution and the Second Amendment.

Despite Giuliani's changing views, NRA chief Wayne LaPierre said: "All I know is, I liked what I heard today. It's a good thing, if a politician sees the light and supports the Second Amendment."

Thompson, McCain and Huckabee chose to highlight their record on gun rights in a veiled criticism of Giuliani and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. In 1994, Romney supported the Brady gun control law and said he wouldn't be the hero of the NRA.


(AP) Republican presidential hopeful, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., delivers remarks to the National Rifle...
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Romney became a lifetime member of the NRA in 2006. He addressed the group by video Friday.

"Let me speak very directly and candidly about where I stand: I support the Second Amendment as one of the most basic and fundamental rights of every American. It's essential to our functioning as a free society, as are all the liberties enumerated in the Bill of Rights," he said.

Thompson, who makes a point of visiting gun shops and gun shows in early voting states, received a warmer reception from the audience of about 500 people, some of whom stood and cheered when he said: "Our basic rights come from God, not from government."

Thompson recently indicated that he wouldn't talk about his faith on the campaign trail.

"It's not just a matter of promises made, as far as I'm concerned. It's a matter of commitments that have been kept," Thompson said.


(AP) Republican presidential hopeful, former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, delivers remarks to the...
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McCain criticized Giuliani outright, citing the use of the word "extremists" in reference to the NRA.

"My friends, gun owners are not extremists; you are the core of modern America," the Arizona senator said. "The Second Amendment is unique in the world and at the core of our constitutional freedoms. It guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms. To argue anything else is to reject the clear meaning of our founding fathers.

Anti-war protesters from the group Code Pink interrupted his speech and were escorted from the hotel ballroom.

Later, in Indianapolis, McCain was asked about Giuliani's remarks in support of gun rights.

"I know that he had a very different position when he was mayor of New York City. I have had the same position as a member of the House and the Senate for many years," McCain said.

The candidates spoke to the NRA as gun violence occurred on another college campus. Two students were shot and wounded, one seriously, at Delaware State University, and the campus was locked down as police searched for a gunman.

Such tragedies inevitably prompt politicians to argue over whether more or fewer gun restrictions would prevent gun crimes. Giuliani said he believes the best way to prevent such crimes is to enforce existing gun laws, not create new ones.

The former mayor said his views on gun rights were tempered by the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks: "Sept. 11 casts somewhat of a different light on Second Amendment rights; it maybe highlights the necessity for them more," Giuliani said.

Giuliani sought to make the case for his candidacy by highlighting his front-runner status in national polls.

"You never get a candidate you agree with 100 percent - I'm not sure I even agree with myself 100 percent," Giuliani said. "You have to figure out who's electable, who can win. Because if we make a mistake about that, this country is going to go in a direction that I think you and I very much disagree with."

Giuliani has said recently that what has worked in New York might not work elsewhere, a notion that Huckabee scoffed at.

The former Arkansas governor said it was "absurd, laughable, that we would have geographic boundaries on the tenets of the Second Amendment."

Giuliani's cell phone rang in the middle of his speech; he said it was his wife, Judith, and as the audience laughed, he answered it and had a brief conversation.

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never get my vote

give Rudy's prior positions and actions concerning gun ownership I'll never rescind my ability to vote for another candidate. Rudy has a time and time again anti-gun position. Rudy's 2nd amendment interpretation indicates cops are good and only the cops should have guns.

There are to many other candidates, from all parties, to vote for anyone who has ever actively move to repress gun ownership. Rudy is a definite leader in that group.
 

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Thealien said:
I don't listen to what they say. I look at their voting record, his is ANTI-GUN
Exactly correct. Their voting record is their truth. McCain is no friend of the 2nd amendment, or the 1st amendment either.
 

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As a life member of NRA, I will be using them somewhat as my guiding light come voting time and you can bet your sweet ass they won't be endorsing Rudy or Shrillary. Can't wait to get my mailing to see who is on the "OK" list.
 

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Going to waste your vote?

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As a life member of NRA, I will be using them somewhat as my guiding light come voting time and you can bet your sweet ass they won't be endorsing Rudy or Shrillary. Can't wait to get my mailing to see who is on the "OK" list.
If it comes down to Hillary or Rudy as the only possible winners then what,
1. vote for someone you like that can't possibly win.
2. Vote for hillary?
3. stay home in protest?
 

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Was Rudy term limited in NY? I thought he didn't run because of health reasons. So he had a miraculous recovery? If he was too sick to run a city, how can he run a country?
 

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was the problem with Rudy

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Was Rudy term limited in NY? I thought he didn't run because of health reasons. So he had a miraculous recovery? If he was too sick to run a city, how can he run a country?
I was thinking the problem with Rudy running was more in line with all the stuff going on about his marriages compiled with a lot of problems going on around re-election time.


I certainly don't like Hillary's position on gun ownership. But at least you can not find her supporting both sides of the issue at different forums. I can not say who I'll vote for but I can assure you I know who I won't: Rudy tops that list.
 

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Rudy will piss on your back and tell you it's raining. Hitlary will piss on your back and tell you that she is pissing on your back. In the end ya got piss on your back.

They both make me sick!

Better get your non-neutered magazines now while the gettin is good. Note, I did not say hi-cap.
 

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Rudy will piss on your back and tell you it's raining.
Hitlary will piss on your back and tell you that she is pissing on your back. In the end ya got piss on your back.
Sorry The Queen will piss on your back, then in your face and tell you you have to like it
Rudy is not much better
 
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