[jwoolf]

IMHO, if anyone cares, if you are wondering if you're a biker, you're probably not even close to my definition.

If you used the word biker in the 70's and 80's you were referring to an MC member, no doubt. Lots of folks rode every metric bike around but, nobody considered those guys bikers back then.... only the hard core group were considered bikers.

It's funny how definitions change over time..... to me, guys that go and guy brand new HD bikes and buy all the HD gear are not bikers because of that. They may become a biker but, at least to me, being a biker is a state of mind, not of money.

Hell, I own a couple of HD shirts ( that were given to me ) and, I've never thought twice about wearing them.... I can't believe anyone would even have a debate about who the real bikers are. You know if you are one.... if you're questioning if you are, you're not.

To me, you don't have to be in a club to be a biker but, to me, bikers are the guys who go to real biker parties, not these commercial rallies and run their golf cart around them. I mean real parties where you ride to them, not trailer.... bring your tent and live off your bike....

 

[jwoolf]

People who get "irritated" over people that they have decided are RUBs, Posers, BUBs, pretenders, or not really "bikers" by their definition basically need to get over themselves and find something more constructive to get emotional over. Enjoy your own choices and experiences and let others do the same. I don't care what someone wears if they own a bike or not. I don't care if someone buys a bike and parks it in the garage and never rides it, just to enjoy looking at it and owning it. It's their money and their experience. If it irritates me, I have the problem, not them. Live and let live. Period.

I couldn't agree more.

There's a LOT of crap to get upset about without bringing this into it. Lot's of the, "posers" are just beginning in the motorcycle community. Lots of times, they're just green and haven't been around yet. Sometimes not. Either way, as long as they leave their attitude at the door, I'll never have an issue with them.

If you want to get upset about something... start with ABATE and some of the other motorcycle rights orgs. Learn what some would do to us with their laws to single us out.

There are laws coming up that need to be kept from going on the books. Stuff that would deny us insurance because of our, "high risk" way of life. Get mad about that.

Write some letters and get involved.... If we don't then we'll lose even more of our rights.... It's coming folks.... they're already singling out our loud pipes and helmet laws... they're now talking about not insuring us......