They are a little different and if you don't like what they offer they will point blank tell you 'take it or leave it'. Live with their approach or go look somewhere else. You ain't gonna change them. I have their 2-1 'Black Hole' on my bike at times and I love the sound. Everything the other fellas saidmjdeucea said:Just recieved a reply to RB Racing concerning whether I can get pipes without the logo on the pipe. It appears that they are not interested in selling their pipes without a logo. What is your take on this, am I wrong to assume that the customer should request what they want, although they acknowledge that any losses in sales due to this is OK with them>?
I looked these pipes up and the "c turn down" is just what I have been looking for. What pipes did you have before putting these on that you noticed performance gains?2Phat said:I received my LSR 2-1 this week, painless installation and there is a noticeable improvement on performance (Road king with Andrews 37, Mikuni 45mm, high flow A/C and ported / flowed heads)
They are a bit short on communication and not tolerable of B/S, but the quality of their pipes is what is important and there are no problems there.
(I also got the impression from their website that they are very proud of their workmanship & design and a bit fed up with people ripping them off.)
I will buy it & wait 7 weeks again on my next bike -the pipes are beautiful and well worth it!
One can ask for anything....mjdeucea said:Just recieved a reply to RB Racing concerning whether I can get pipes without the logo on the pipe. It appears that they are not interested in selling their pipes without a logo. What is your take on this, am I wrong to assume that the customer should request what they want, although they acknowledge that any losses in sales due to this is OK with them>?
I'm a little confused by your expectations here. Do you think Chevrolet would sell you a car without a bowtie on it somewhere?mjdeucea said:Just recieved a reply to RB Racing concerning whether I can get pipes without the logo on the pipe. It appears that they are not interested in selling their pipes without a logo. What is your take on this, am I wrong to assume that the customer should request what they want, although they acknowledge that any losses in sales due to this is OK with them>?
Somewhere on their website, they state that they use a very strong adhesive for their new label, practically you can't get it off. And in the 'Eat sh$t' section, they tell a story about a 'customer' who never paid the unlabelled custom designed pipes and went to a show with his own label on them bragging about 'his' design .........mjdeucea said:.........the labeling that goes with it, with this it is here it is if you don't like it go somewhere else.
MJ
Yes, you can request the dealer not to label your car. I've tried it without success, but we'll let that pass. What I asked was if CHEVROLET, not the dealer, would sell you a car w/o a bowtie (metaphor for some type of company branding) on it.mjdeucea said:And yes if I buy a Chevy I can request that the dealer not label it, I can decide what type of option package I want and the labeling that goes with it, with this it is here it is if you don't like it go somewhere else. Since they are not consumer driven it is their choice.
I note that they do solicit support for racers, etc who are using their pipes. I wonder if they were more apt to listen to the consumer perhaps sales would increase and the need to solicit would decrease with the ability to sponsor the bike, due to their increase revenue.
As the Stone sing, "you can't always get what you want"
MJ
I know I shouldn't, but I'll try once more. Man, if you don't like the way they operate then hell yeah, take your money elsewhere. But quit setting up straw men to justify it. All aftermarket parts I ever bought for my Camaros were branded. On the part itself. Not on my fender, hood, or dash. On the part. I guess I missed the part of your post(s) where RBR was forcing you to put their logo on the bodywork of your bike.mjdeucea said:My issue is with the aesthetics. Also when I buy aftermarket pipes for my Chevy I am not required to place labels on my car as to what pipes I have, or if I am building a hot rod I do not have to list what carb I put in it, for that manner does Mikuni require us to place a tag on our bikes if we place a Mikuni carb or how about a Power Commander tag on your fender to let others know you have one, or a Kuryakyn label on all the pegs, lights etc, or Headwinds on their lights, or Race tech suspension, Works shocks. If they were sponsoring me as a racer OK I will advertise their product. They have a right to make the product they want to and as it states on their website if they lose business so be it. For my current project I may pass on this pipe but for another who knows...........
Thanks for the feedback and input,
MJ