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Not sure if this is the right place to post this but here goes.

This is looks like an all out assault on the biking comunity here in Europe. Read through it because if they get it through then it is only a matter of time before some knob head of a politician in the US thinks it is a good idea.


Amendments are on the table now and being discussed, like giving an opt out for special 'one-off' builders, (but only the British and the Finns want that) and also making ABS compulsory on mopeds too (Germans want that- or rather the German ABS industry wants that). When IMCO finally vote on this (4/5 or 6th Oct) it then goes to Parliament.



As this is a 'Framework Regulation' once passed it does not have to be transposed into Law in Individual Member States, as it will happen automatically.



So, as far as the 25th September Motorway Mayhem day goes, the 10 very real European issues that we still need to draw attention to are:



1- The Anti tampering Regulation: Specifically Article 18 which wants to stop all modifications to complete power train, from airbox to controlling the rear tyre profile.



2- Compulsory ABS. If we can't stop this, we must get a switch so that we have an option in difficult conditions where ABS doesn't function well.



3- Automatic headlights on- passing the blame for poor observation on to us.



4- OBD. On Board Diagnostics so that easy roadside checks can be made of our emissions and so that constant readouts of engine performance can be obtained. Expensive, complicated and with the threat, rather like a tacho, of identifying past riding style...



5- RMI. Repair and Maintenance Information. Rather than keeping it hidden and available for huge expense, there is a chance that manufacturers will be forced to provide ECU codes etc for a fee. What that fee is remains to be seen.



6- The very worrying article 52: "If systems, components or seperate technical units on a list in a delegated act to this regulation, have a dual use, for vehicles intended exclusively for racing on roads and for vehicles intended for use on public roads, they may not be sold or offered for sale to consumers"



So if your K&N filter can fit a CBR race bike and a CBR road bike, the best way to police that, is to make it illegal to sell the filter in Europe.



The Delegated Acts are the most scarey thing, as they are the lists and details drawn up by the unelected and we won't get to see what they are including until after the Regulation has been passed!



7- In solidarity with the French we will be drawing attention to their recent gov proposal to ban all bikes over 7 years old from an urban area and to make the wearing of day-glo/ reflective clothing compulsory.



8- Full sleeve day-glo clothing for riders and passengers has been proposed in the Irish Parliament too.



9- All these issues lead to the same thing, that we must take the blame for the incompetence of other road users. And while the emergency stop has been removed as a compulsory element of the car driving test, we are jumping through hoops with ill judged UK interpretation of EU licencing directives.



10- Another EU licencing Directive is on its way (3DLD) to step the bike licencing system still further and the DfT and DSA still haven't sorted even the consultation process, even though it is meant to be in law by now and enacted January 2013.





Plans for the day (25th Sept) are that all over the country riders meet at midday in M-way services (or suitable similar if there's no motorway to hand) and at exactly 13.00 groups of riders set off to ride perfectly legally at a sedate Sunday 45/50mph on the country's motorway network. Perhaps over bridges, near the confluence of other motorways etc.



The MAG and other websites will carry details of all the meeting places.



It's the simultaneous element that carries the weight, as even 50 bikes together will cause disruption, but happening everywhere across the country will be powerful and will have the traffic alerts discussing it. They'll be primed.



Riders will disperse as rapidly as they appeared, but after riding for a few junctions at below the speed the trucks use, our impact should be felt.



No need for marshalls, no one can go the wrong way.

No hot engines, no speeches, ride as far as you wish

One media contact number

The threat that we can do it again on a different day of the week will be established.



Our MEPs will be preparing to rubber stamp another regulation put before them. This time they may stop to read it.



Now I appreciate that this may be way too many words for your available space, but anything will be appreciated. If you could let the odd '25th September' appear subliminally throughout your websites.



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Wow, they are really trying to tighten the screws over there. And that means those of us who come over there to live from time to time will have an even more difficult time bringing out bikes. Good luck!
 

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it is a very scary and very real threat to people's freedoms of choice and expression that these "eurocrats" are trying to impose on us...

if these regulations come to pass, i for one will go all Toecutter on them, and'll be breaking the law by the simple act of taking the scoot out for a ride!!!

 

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Why should I "please read"? I don't live in the EU.

You should organize and vote.....oh, that's right... you don't have a Bill of Rights, and you are "subjects", not "citizens".

I'll bet you don't get to ride with your pistol on your hip, either.

Sorry 'bout that.

Politicians everywhere try to control the masses by passing laws to maintain their power. Since a minority of people are bikers, politicians feel they can trounce on your rights and pleasures and still have the approval of all the greenies, unicorn fart sniffers, and CLIMATE CHANGE ZOMG!111 WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE crazies.
 

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That's what you get in the land of social government.
 

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Why should I "please read"? I don't live in the EU..
The request was a friendly heads up to fellow riders in America.

Historically speaking, whatever regulations appear (motorcycles, guns, you name it) in Europe, eventually find their way over here to US soil.

This in itself is a curious thing. Is it because our "elected" leaders are actually socialists in disguise? Well, that is a discussion for another forum.

My point is, don't be so rude. The OP was just trying to point out what the "enlightened ones" (politicians) are up to across the pond.
 

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Why should I "please read"? I don't live in the EU.

You should organize and vote.....oh, that's right... you don't have a Bill of Rights, and you are "subjects", not "citizens".

I'll bet you don't get to ride with your pistol on your hip, either.

Sorry 'bout that.

Politicians everywhere try to control the masses by passing laws to maintain their power. Since a minority of people are bikers, politicians feel they can trounce on your rights and pleasures and still have the approval of all the greenies, unicorn fart sniffers, and CLIMATE CHANGE ZOMG!111 WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE crazies.
I said Please read because I was being polite.

I asked you to read it because if it works over here then how long before one of your politicians decides it is a good idea to try it.

We have voted no to things in the EU and been sent back to the ballot box to do it again until we (the people) get it right, I kid you not, just google 'the lisbon treaty and the irish vote' and you will see what happened.

Most people in the EU did not realise what they were getting into when it started, they certainly did not see the coming of Germany's fourth Reich as it is rapidly becoming.

Lastly I am not asking any of you to do anything just simply to make you aware of what could be around the corner for ye, in the interest of brotherhood and all.
 

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Sorry - wasn't trying to be rude. I will refrain in future. It's simply a pet peeve of mine.

Your added use of !!!!!!!!!! just sent me over the edge.

I'm tired of the hackneyed "please read!!!!!!!!" on threads and emails I receive. I figure it's redundant. When you post something on a board or email someone, it is implied you are asking them to please read it. Adding a slew of exclamation points doesn't make it any more urgent.

Yes, we have the Brady Campaign and similar groups that want to emulate British-style gun control for our "safety", and the unelected EPA that gets to impose its will on consumers and businesses in the name of protecting the environment.

Personally, like my Irish forebears of many years ago, I'd rather live dangerously free than safely caged.
 

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Why should I "please read"? I don't live in the EU.

You should organize and vote.....oh, that's right... you don't have a Bill of Rights, and you are "subjects", not "citizens".

I'll bet you don't get to ride with your pistol on your hip, either.

Sorry 'bout that.

Politicians everywhere try to control the masses by passing laws to maintain their power. Since a minority of people are bikers, politicians feel they can trounce on your rights and pleasures and still have the approval of all the greenies, unicorn fart sniffers, and CLIMATE CHANGE ZOMG!111 WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE crazies.

Wow !

There are plenty of places in your beloved country where citizens have a bill of rights, yet still they are not allowed to ride with a pistol on their hip.

Like eyewear laws, "excessive" noise ordinances specifically apllied to motorcycles, and big-brother helmet laws, it all starts somewhere.

I think op was just trying to give us a heads up...
 

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Wow !

There are plenty of places in your beloved country where citizens have a bill of rights, yet still they are not allowed to ride with a pistol on their hip.

Like eyewear laws, "excessive" noise ordinances specifically apllied to motorcycles, and big-brother helmet laws, it all starts somewhere.

I think op was just trying to give us a heads up...
Sad, but true. Yes, there are pockets of people in this country who consistently vote in politicians who promise them "safety", largesse from government coffers, and laws to protect the citizens if only they will relinquish their God-given rights. The Bill of Rights was written to recognize our innate human rights; it's not a list of only those enumerated rights the government grudgingly provides you as a privilege. Read The Federalist Papers.

I agree it's a good heads-up, and as long as our friends and neighbors gladly pull the voting lever for "peace", safety, and government control rather than liberty and freedom from tyranny, they will reap what they sow.

All of us will.....
 
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