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Thinkin' of gettin' one of those crew cab pick-ups with diesel to pull a big 29' travel trailer. The suckers are sooooooooooo long, would like to get the short bed. The bed is 6 3/4 feet long.

Question is ... can I haul my Ultra (98.3 inches) in the short bed with the tailgate down? Or, do I need to go for the long bed?

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With the gate down you should be able to (check if re-enforcement is needed). The bike should be a little over 8' and the gate should add about 2' to the bed length. I question the type hitch the trailer uses and will the gate down affect its operation?
 

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I was able to haul my softail in my Short bed Dakota, 6 Ft bed. The bike was in corner to corner with the tail gate up. If I had to do it again I'd get a bed extender.
 

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I have hauled my 01 RC in my Silverado 1500 ext cab short bed. The back tire is barely on the bed so once everythings loaded and tied down nothing is riding on the tailgate.

All the big fun is getting it on & off the truck :D
 

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I wouldn't do it if you have to have one wheel on the tailgate...they are strong but they aren't that strong.
 

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I agree with Logical. I've seen a few tailgates that have actually sunken in from the weight of the bike on them.
 

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logical said:
I wouldn't do it if you have to have one wheel on the tailgate...they are strong but they aren't that strong.
I agree with you and Ed Y, I suggested the gate down as to not cause any damage with tight spaces (shoulda been more specific). Bottom line (IMHO) is if he can afford the long bed, go for it since he does have that big arse box in tow. I'm sure any Hitch Specialist would recommend the gate closed.
 

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Thanks all ... pretty much what I thought also. May just trade the TT in on a Class C MH so I can pull the MC trailer. Then again, may just sell the TT and the MC trailer and just ride ...
 

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........May just trade the TT in on a Class C MH so I can pull the MC trailer. /B]


Now that's the route if the OL don't like long hauls, motels, tents etc;......
 

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I agree with you and Ed Y, I suggested the gate down as to not cause any damage with tight spaces (shoulda been more specific). Bottom line (IMHO) is if he can afford the long bed, go for it since he does have that big arse box in tow. I'm sure any Hitch Specialist would recommend the gate closed.
Not to mention a longer wheelbase tow vehicle with the travel trailer is more stable at high speeds. ...Not that I'm speaking from experience or anything ;)
 

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A friend of mine put a sheet of 3/4 plywood down in his bed in a shortbed to extend the bed over the tailgate. Worked like a champ, and didn't crush his tailgate. Still a b***h to load and unload.
 

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Good idea on the plywood ...

Now if we could just get all Harley dealers, rest areas, gas stations, and shopping center parking lots to install permanent ramps that we could all just back up to and unload ...
 

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Might be a bit late here, but if you are going to do some serious towing and adding the weight of the bike in the bed of the truck, you not only want the long wheelbase but you want dual rear wheels. Much more stable.

You might get away with single rear wheels towing a fifth wheel, but not a trailer that size.

Think about it, I have been doing it for over 10 years all over the country.
 

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what brand you buying?

dodge/cummins ISB?

ford?/navistar powerjoke?

GM/duramax?
I have a powerjoke, as you call it. F250 4x4 Lariat. I have a gooseneck hitch in it to pull the OL's horse trialer. I've been off road all over southern Utah in it. 90,000 trouble free miles and she's just getting broken in. I'm looking forward to the next 90,000 trouble free miles. If thats a joke, then the jokes on me. Hell, I'd buy another one in a heartbeat.

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I have a powerjoke, as you call it. F250 4x4 Lariat. I have a gooseneck hitch in it to pull the OL's horse trialer. I've been off road all over southern Utah in it. 90,000 trouble free miles and she's just getting broken in. I'm looking forward to the next 90,000 trouble free miles. If thats a joke, then the jokes on me. Hell, I'd buy another one in a heartbeat.

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Wyo, I am a diesel mechanic. We have some of those Fords in our fleet. I work for a very large garbage company. All of our Route Foremans have the F250 with the diesel motors. You can count on 300,000 miles if you take care of it., I believ at 70,000 miles Ford recomends adjusting the valves and cleaning the injectors. We never do the valve adjustments but have cleaned the injectors. Our Route Foremans don't get a new truck until they log 300,000. Those suckers are tough. :)
 

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wyodude said:


I have a powerjoke, as you call it. F250 4x4 Lariat. II'm looking forward to the next 90,000 trouble free miles. If thats a joke, then the jokes on me.

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Wyo, take a pill and chill. the Navistar444 in your truck is an excellent engine. also used in School buses,and other medium duty rigs.

I'm not going to start the Ford vs Chevy crap here even though Ford doesn't know how to build a Diesel engine.
 

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more food for thought!

Dodge ( Daimler -Chrysler) uses Cummins diesel engines.

Cummins is an independent engine Manufacturer.

Daimler Chrysler bought Detroit Diesel two years ago.

Detroit Diesel now is a subcorporation to Mercedes,Mtu,EM vitori,all diesel engine builders from 40 to 4000 HP.

how long do you think the Cummins will stay in the Dodge pickup before D/C decides to install their own engines instead of purchasing a competitors engine?
 

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I'm leaning toward the Ford but I think I'll wait till the new 6.0 and the new trans. are available. Love the looks of the new Rams but keep hearing that the transmissions are not up to the job ... can't even get an automatic with the high output diesel.
 
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