[geoffreyt]

Since we spend a lot of time on the road, in cars and on bikes, a lot of urban and now suburban riders are challenged by money maker photo ops installed by governments that do not listen to the voters. Speed photos and red-light photos that do not carry points but will tag you every day of the week for $75-$150 a pop. It’s a revenue thing, take my word for it.

The point of my post is to seek testimony from those with personal experience with the PHOTOBLOCKER product, or another similar product.

http://www.phantomplate.com/


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[springer-]

Products like this should be illegal and fines 10 times that of the offence you commit should be levied if you are caught with a product like this while commiting the offence.

The roads are dangerous enough and giving someone a tool to run red lights or speed without regard, just makes them worst.

 

[James]

Speeding is illegal. If you get caught be a man and pay your fine.

 

[aztriker]

Products like this should be illegal and fines 10 times that of the offence you commit should be levied if you are caught with a product like this while commiting the offence.

The roads are dangerous enough and giving someone a tool to run red lights or speed without regard, just makes them worst.

Very well said, Springer. You got my vote...

 

[SiLlY]

I've also seen license plate clear covers that have metalic flake in them to also deter the candid camera.

 

[MadCity]

I'm not nearly as concerned with speeding as a traffic hazzard as much as people running red lights. It's endemic here in Madison. Each and every day I see multiple instances of people blatantly entering intersections with the red light showing — and it's almost always cagers even in the midst of riding season. It really ticks me off, and I'd love to see some of those jokers take home a big fat ticket.

 

[Rock]

I'm with you MadCity. I don't know anyone who doesn't speed. Especially those who ride motorcycles. I'm more concerned with the redlight/stop sign runners and the infamous left turn ppl.

 

[hdmarsh77]

I'm with you guys. Personally I think the speed cameras are kind of like cheating but the red light cameras are a good thing.

How many stories do we read right here on the VTF about some a-hole running a light and hurting or killing someone. Now someone wants to give themself the ability(and excuse) to get away with it.

If you knowingly break a law and get a ticket, suck it up and be a man.

 

[Fatb0y]

If you are going to be illegally photographed then these products need to be readily available in the local dollar general store.

I hope it works as well as it says it does.

Hey there camera :finger: .

 

[James]

If you are going to be illegally photographed then these products need to be readily available in the local dollar general store.

Don't know what it is like in Tennessee but if you walk in any store in Illinois it is highly likely you are being filmed. It is not illegal!

 

[DLL66]

I've read in one of these posts that the spray doesn't work.

 

[Fatb0y]

Don't know what it is like in Tennessee but if you walk in any store in Illinois it is highly likely you are being filmed. It is not illegal!

A store is private property. We are talking about public. THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

 

[springer-]

I doubt seriously the camera's used to catch people running redlights, speeding or evading tolls are illegal. It would get thrown out of court everytime if it was.

Additionally, being in public doesn't make it illegal to take pictures of you with a camera.

 

[Gunxddslinger]

While driving/riding on public property there is no expectation of privacy. The cameras and the photos they take are perfectly legal. Just don't run the reds and you don't have to worry about it.....%[email protected]

 

[swmnkdinthervr]

I'm not nearly as concerned with speeding as a traffic hazzard as much as people running red lights. It's endemic here in Madison. Each and every day I see multiple instances of people blatantly entering intersections with the red light showing — and it's almost always cagers even in the midst of riding season. It really ticks me off, and I'd love to see some of those jokers take home a big fat ticket.

That's the problem with the emphasis on speeders...we have a huge number of injury/fatality accidents associated with running red lights/stop signs, not stopping before a right on red, not using turn signals for any maneuver, failing to yield right-away and tailgating. The police here responding to allegations of targeting large fine violations stated that aggressive driving (ie speeding) caused more accidents on the highways which cause the most fatalities, but were unwilling to give injury/fatality numbers for the rest of the listed traffic offenses...

 

[Zuhaib]

Products like this should be illegal and fines 10 times that of the offence you commit should be levied if you are caught with a product like this while commiting the offence.

The roads are dangerous enough and giving someone a tool to run red lights or speed without regard, just makes them worst.

Springer, good point BUT i dont agree.
There is a red light at a major road near my house, to which as those new sensor in the ground used to time the lights. And during the day they work as planed, but at night they switch them to 100% sensor mode and if i am coming home at 2am in the morning and i just happen to be the only person on the road those GD sensors NEVER PICK up my bike. No matter what i do, restart, puting the kick stand down, nothing. I just have to wait for a car to come by or just run it. And i do just run it many times, i look both ways and treat it just like a stop sign where i only have the stop. But its the best thing i can do. I have sent letters to the City many times, but living in big city they dont help.
So till they fix it, i will run that light.

 

[MadCity]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
While driving/riding on public property there is no expectation of privacy. The cameras and the photos they take are perfectly legal. Just don't run the reds and you don't have to worry about it.....

Precisely. People are videotaped everyday from coast to coast in public buildings, like the one I work in. Not to mention ATMs. Videotaping people in public is not illegal.

 

[Martin64]

So till they fix it, i will run that light.

That's a little different then just speeding up and running a stop light with the stereo pumpin' and sipping on a cup of Starbucks because you're late for work....not saying it's true to the letter of the law, but it is true to the spirit and, if ticketed, would be alot easier to explain (and demonstrate) to the Judge.

 

[MadCity]

Originally posted by Zuhaib
. . . and if i am coming home at 2am in the morning and i just happen to be the only person on the road those GD sensors NEVER PICK up my bike. No matter what i do, restart, puting the kick stand down, nothing. I just have to wait for a car to come by or just run it. And i do just run it many times, i look both ways and treat it just like a stop sign where i only have the stop.

I think that's a clear exception to what I'm complaining about. I'm talking about busy intersections with heavy four-way traffic and some yahoo decides he's in a hurry to get somewhere and runs the light. I'd certainly look the other way for someone in the circumstance you describe.

 

[Retrax]

It is NOT illegal to be photographed in public weather you are driving, or simply walking around. In Minneapolis they have experimented with "anti-crime" cameras that take video and still photos of high crime downtown areas and continually monitor people in the area.

Just look at the aggressive free lance photographers who incessently hound famous stars, constantly clicking cameras in their faces. You may not like it, but there is nothing you can do about it. I see it is a kind of privacy invasion, but the Supreme Court says you are fair game when out in public.