V-Twin Forum banner

oil level when cold

23K views 23 replies 16 participants last post by  oranjvoodoo  
Oil level when cold

I have a 05' Softail Standard and this very thing has just started happening to me. I have been observing my "cold" oil level for the past week. I very well know to check my oil at operating temperature, and it is full when I do so. I just don't remember my oil level dropping that low when the engine is cold. The service manuel lists a faulty oil pump/ crank case o-ring as a possible culprit. It does not seem like an easy fix. I do not show any signs of leaking or burning oil. So I can only guess that it is leaking back in to the crank case. Is there a way I can find out if it is leaking back in to the crank case?
 
Oil level when cold

Ok, for those of you who are interested here is the answer to the random oil levels when the engine is cold (pertains more to Softails). Hence, this is why we check the oil when it is hot. By design the oil tank sits above the oil pump and once the oil is circulated back in to the tank is held in there by a check valve ball bearing. With the weight of the oil, gravity will win every time and the oil weeps past the check ball in to the crankcase. Great example, take the bike for a ride, oil level checks full, then the bike sits for about three to five days. You will notice the cold level dropping. It is also important to mention that the oil will condense as it cools, especially if you use syn 3. The Twin Cam 88 was designed with this as a known "characteristic." When you fire up the engine the oil pump will pull everything out of the crankcase and begin circulating. As you put more miles on the bike the check valve will weaken, but as for replacing it look at around 25,000-30,000 miles only if it is a problem. Here is how to tell if it is a problem. When you start the engine it will dump oil out of the crankcase oil vent located on the left side of the bike next to the drive belt. It will be like you just pulled out the oil pan drain plug. The other tell tale is if you finish a nice long ride and you go to check the oil and it is not in the oil tank. That would be complete check valve bearing failure. The job to replace the check valve is an estimated four hour task. It is one of those things that some of us Softail/TC 88 owners will have to replace and others will not. I hope this information is found to be helpful. None of us like to have anything break or go wrong with our scoots. It is important to recognize when there is a real problem with the bike, and when we are just chasing ghosts. So ride on and ride safe.:cheers: :chopper: