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I was trying to change the oil in my 99 Ultra CAlssic today and a strange thing happened. When I removed the drain plug and filter only a couple of quarts or less of oil drained out. Im positive it was nearly full when I started and there is still oil on the dipstick indicating that there is still oil in the pan. So why won't the rest of the oil drain out? Is there another drain plug somewhere? I removed the one on the shifter side at the bottom of the trans cover I believe it is. First time this has happened. Thanks.
 

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The one pointing to the floor. Maybe I did drain the tranny. I dunno. It's been a while since I did this myself and I couldn't remember where the oil pan plug was. Wouldn't be the first time I did something goofy like that. I'm not real mechanically inclined.
 

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the engine oil faces the front of the bike on the shifter side. tranny is on brake side. also make sure you bring bike up to operating temp before draining, will make it drain faster and more complete, and remove dipstick to allow for venting. good luck.
 

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The one pointing to the floor. Maybe I did drain the tranny. I dunno. It's been a while since I did this myself and I couldn't remember where the oil pan plug was. Wouldn't be the first time I did something goofy like that. I'm not real mechanically inclined.
yup..you drained the trans :clap: no worries it probably needed it anyway. The oil pan plug faces forward and is more toward the left side of the bike...now go ahead and do the primary and yer good :)
 

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yup..you drained the trans :clap: no worries it probably needed it anyway. The oil pan plug faces forward and is more toward the left side of the bike...now go ahead and do the primary and yer good :)
And since you did drain the transmission, don't forget to fill it back up. :) I've only changed my oil three times this year so I get out the manual every time to make sure I'm taking the correct drain plug out.
Part of the reason I get out the manual though is because while in the Air Force you better not get caught working on anything with out the Technical Manual right in front of you. Guess it has become a habit.
 

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And since you did drain the transmission, don't forget to fill it back up. :) I've only changed my oil three times this year so I get out the manual every time to make sure I'm taking the correct drain plug out.
Part of the reason I get out the manual though is because while in the Air Force you better not get caught working on anything with out the Technical Manual right in front of you. Guess it has become a habit.
your one of those guys who isnt afraid to stop and ask for directions , arent you.:sofa:


i confess i own and use the manual myself. :)
 

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yup..you drained the trans :clap: no worries it probably needed it anyway. The oil pan plug faces forward and is more toward the left side of the bike...now go ahead and do the primary and yer good :)
Well this isn't the dumbest thing I've done so I guess I'll just live and learn. Closest dealer is 1.5 hrs away is there any particular recommended fluid besides Harley stuff? And where do you put it in ? lol Oh, and what is a primary?
 

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Well this isn't the dumbest thing I've done so I guess I'll just live and learn. Closest dealer is 1.5 hrs away is there any particular recommended fluid besides Harley stuff? And where do you put it in ? lol Oh, and what is a primary?
i like belray tranni fluid
big twin or vtwin cant remember what they call it . redline is also top notch tranni fluid
 

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Well this isn't the dumbest thing I've done so I guess I'll just live and learn.
well dam, dude. two thoughts: 1) you really need the service manual, and 2) should you be doing your own wrenching, really?

is there any particular recommended fluid besides Harley stuff?
o, good gawd. yes. Go to the Engine Oils and Lubrication Forum and never, never ask this again.

And where do you put it in ? lol Oh, and what is a primary?
pls see first comment with emphasis on item 2).

good luck.
 

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I'll save you a trip. Use any good quality, name brand synthetic oil designed for the environment you are putting it in. IE engine oil in engine, gear lube in the tranny etc, etc.
 

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I use HD syn3 20w50 synthetic all three holes. Change about every 3000 miles. But dude not being a smart ass but if you do not know what a primary is or where the different fluids go you may be better off going somewhere to have this done. Or at a min a service manual read over and over!!! Did you consider new o rings or primary gasket. filter ect.
 

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Well this isn't the dumbest thing I've done so I guess I'll just live and learn. Closest dealer is 1.5 hrs away is there any particular recommended fluid besides Harley stuff? And where do you put it in ? lol Oh, and what is a primary?
Trans fluid goes in on the right side. You will see a flush cover with a hex head in it, thats the trans dipstick, unscrew it and put in any decent gear oil 75W-90 or higher.

Primary drive is the cover on the left side of the bike, it has the clutch and Stator in it and transfers the power from the engine into the transmission. That side can take 10w-40 oil, 20w-50 or any high grade 80w gear oil. Ya gotta get a manual though before you go much further... Good for you jumpin right in there...your not the first to drain the trans thinkin it was the oil...come to think of it I think I did so a long while back too! :clap:
 

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Amsoil Motorcycle oil in all three holes -- makes it easy. And PLEASE, get the service manual. You don't have to be a gear-head to do oil changes correctly -- you just need to be able to read and follow simple directions.
 

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IMO you were SPOON-fed a lot of good information, the most important of which was to get yourself your own service manual. It's nobody's fault here that you cannot perform one of the most basic tasks of maintenance.:eek:
 

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2000 RKC Drain Plug Locations

Probably a common mistake.

I took a digital pic after my first oil change so I didn't forget.

This will help other first timers:

http://www.v-twinforum.com/gallery/showgallery.php?ppuser=21156&cat=500


Also, here is what I typed out for my own use:

OWNER’S Manual Recommends Oil Change Every 5,000 Miles



**using 4 Quarts 20w-50 Amsoil synthetic ...noted in forums as very smooth for the bike

Actually all you need is the Harley oil filter wrench which fits over the end of the filter and has a cut out for the oil sending unit that is on the other Harley models. Or if all else fails drive a screwdriver into the side of the filter and lever it counterclockwise to loosen.

make sure the bike is at operating temperature so that the warm oil will run out smoothly.


DRAINING THE OIL

1. place an oil pan under the drain plug area AND on top of some old newspapers. Use a paint roller pan to catch the oil

** LOCATE OIL DRAIN PLUG via JPG picture, it's on the bike's LEFT side and mounts into the drain pan HORIZONTALLY -- the vertically mounted drain plug on the bike's RIGHT side is for Transmission Oil.

2. Loosen the plug using a 5/8" socket or 5.5mm/ 1/4" Allen wrench (counter clockwise).
3. From the high side of the bike with the kick stand down. Remove the plug and allow the warm oil to drain into the pan (this may take awhile--even when warm). Remove oil cap to allow good draining.
4. Check the oil plug end for metal filings (it's magnetized) wipe it clean.
5. When the oil stops dripping carefully slide the pan out form under the bike on the newspaper and reinstall the oil plug AFTER placing some oil on the "O" ring seal.


BE CAREFUL TO NOT OVER TIGHTEN THE PLUG, or risk damaging the o ring seal. 14-21 ft.lb torque


Removing Oil Filter

1. place an oil pan under the filter area AND on top of some old newspapers. Rig up a cardboard trough or manila envelope in a V shape underneath the filter to catch the oil that will drip from it.
2. Place the oil filter wrench over the end of the filter and using the 3/8ths drive extension and ratchet, turn counter clockwise to remove it.
3. Wipe up the oil from the engine and filter areas.
4. Put some oil on your finger and run it around the rubber seal on the new filter to lubricate it.
5. Spin it on until it seats and then go another 1/2 turn to tighten it properly.


ADDING NEW OIL AFTER CHANGING THE FILTER

** Should take just under 4 quarts
** put the bottles of oil out in the sun so they empty quicker and more completely

1. Remove the oil dip stick in the front of the motor.
2. Pour 2 Quarts of new oil in the motor.
3. Start engine for ~45 secs to allow oil to fully circulate so you can add the rest of the oil.
4. Add another 1 1/4 or 1 1/2 Quarts
5. Wait for about a minute and check the level
6. If it is low add more oil Until the dip stick reads full WHEN THE BIKE IS LEVEL.
7. Take the bike for a 3-4 mile run.
8. When you return let it sit for a few minutes and then check the oil level on the dipstick and add as necessary until the level reads full.
9. WRITE DOWN how much oil you used for YOUR MOTOR (there is as much as 3/4 of a bottle of oil differences in oil amounts from one motor to another) on a piece of paper and place it where you can find it the next time you need to change your oil.
10. Place newspaper under the bike for the next 24 hours to locate any leaks
 

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Do Not Use Gear Oil In Your Primary!!!!! Use Engine Oil , Trans Fluid Or H-d Formula +
 
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