So I talked with Fuel MOTO today and decided to do the 107ci kit and level B jug work.... This is in addition to all the other stuff.... Should be around 116hp at the rear!! Pretty excited!! Just not sure what came I will go with. Either the 5's or 777. Stoked to get it all done.
Oh man...
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Oh Man is correct. Loads of power there. Good luck, keep us informed.
I am the odd man out, I leave my Harley's stock and never considered them under powered.
I am the odd man out, I leave my Harley's stock and never considered them under powered.
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Tw-555's here...Love em..
FuelMoto has sold hundreds of their 107" kits with either the Woods 555 or 777 cams. Many people across the country have installed them and dynoed them at various facilities. The results have been good for most every one of them. It's a good combination, great bang for the buck.
I'd also consider what Steve at GMR has been doing with the Andrews 54 and a 10:1 compression 107"... It's going to be a little friendlier on valve springs and cheaper fuel...
Fuel Moto's head work leaves me with a few questions. I doubt they compare with what Baisley, BC Gerolamy, T-Man, R&R, Deweys or WFO Larry can do....
But for the money they appear to be a good deal.
Jaime at Fuel Moto is a legit builder man. I am lucky and live 40 minutes from him. Here is a link to the dyno charts. Check out his web page. He is huge on R&D and I would not take my bike to some monkey. Not trying to debate this just saying. Check out the dyno chart with the 777 cams.
http://www.fuelmotousa.com/heads.htm
Does his B head package include new guides / seals?
Not sure I would have to ask. This is what the site specifies.
$1299.00
The Fuel Moto 107 Big Bore is a complete kit with the highest quality components all of which have been extensively tested in house both on the dyno as well as in real world conditions. This kit works in all 2007-2012 Twin cam 96" and 103" motors and delivers absolute top level performance, it also works with stock cylinder heads and valve train. Our kit includes the following:
Fuel Moto/CP forged pistons 10.25:1 compression
Precision bored OEM cylinders ready to install with ring end gap set (core exchange, or send us your cylinders)
Your choice of Wood Knight Prowler TW-555 or TW-777 cams
Wood Performance Directional Lifters
Fuel Moto Quick Install Pushrods
All necessary gaskets, o rings, and Torrington inner cam bearings
Level B $799.00
The Fuel Moto Level B cylinder head is our premium Street Performance head. It was developed for excellent all around performance gains, it works especially well with 103" and 107" builds and includes the following:
complete disassembly, inspection, and cleaning of cylinder heads
Extensive porting, texturing, and blending with an emphasis on best all around performance
Exhaust port and and combustion chamber are fully polished
Oversize Stainless 1.900" Intake 1.610" Exhaust valves
Serdi valve job
Fuel Moto cryogenic coated extreme duty beehive style valve springs up to .600 lift
CC combustion chamber, set to desired spec
Machine/Install compression releases if required (+$100.00)
2-5 day turnaround on customer supplied heads
ALL WORK IS DONE IN HOUSE
In talking with them today they I asked about reliability and they stated they have many customers well over the 35,000 mile mark. Jaime is the guy who tuned my Night train 103 stage 4 to 106hp/112tq. I would go to him any day over a authorized harley dealer. I see on the site the 103 with level B heads and cams is making 110hp. I know coming from sport bikes and having a night train that got up and went like a bat out of hell I will not be happy with the stock 103 even with exhaust, air cleaner and flash.
I hear you and I am not questioning fuel moto's work, just curious. I have seen a few sets of heads from Baisley, R&R, T-Man and BC Gerolamy. They are works of art.
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I'll check into it and get back to you. The guy today told me the 107" and level B will add 30-40hp over stock depending on cam choice and pipe and such. That is considerable in my opinion. And like I said it is convenient he is 40 minutes from me.
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I think it's a smart solution. I have had 95" no heads, 114 w/heads, and now 120 w/heads. I found the 114 and 120 are tough to keep cool and depending on your CR like to ping and like to blow oil mist out of the breathers. I am on my 2nd top end on my 120 as a result of heat and pinging after many dyno's. I should have gone 107 w/heads in the first place.
Yes I hear you man. I want reliability with performance. My other concern was clutch and they said I could add a barnett spring that is stiffer than stock if I have any issues. Like I said I need some grunt. My train was 106 at the rear and it was a caged beast. I look forward to having around 115 or so on the bagger. Plus the cam sound is always nice!!!
Thanks for all the comments and hope you all have a good day!
You should look into having your bike looked at by a reputable shop. Their are plenty of people with the 120 that are not having reliability issues. You are about 2 hours from Steve over at GMR you should give him a shout. If done right a 120 should be just as reliable as a 88. It all depends on how well you match the components and how well it is tuned.
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Yes our Level B head service includes new AV&V valve guides and seals. While we have been only offering V Twin head service for a couple seasons, we have been very involved in cylinder head development for many years in several other channels as well as professional racing
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