Hey guys!! We are new to the forum and i wanted to get your opinion on the new 550 and 800 big bore kits we have for the Street 500 and 750's. What do you think??
Looks like those are press in sleeves, so 1000 might need completely new water jackets to be case. Do they bump the compression up or any other performance increases?
They at least make a good replacement when you have a scored cylinder.
You are right you would need a new outter casting to go that big and you would also have to bore the cases for a 1000cc. We did the big bore kit, air cleaner, Bassani Slip on, and Power commander and went from 52hp and 43tg to 60hp and 48tq. We are waiting for some cams to come in and we are hopping soon!! As for compression we went from stock 11:1 to 11.5:1cr
that's $114/HP? Ouch! I thought my 103 TC was expensive at $60/HP for a Stage IV build? Will a cam upgrade add much to the performance? Overhead cams?? why doesn't the MoCo just build a 1000cc version of the 750cc?
It's a 20% gain for that displacement. It is an overhead cam and we are waiting for a cam to come in and see what it does. Also there is no head work done to this either and that is coming soon as well. Not sure why the MoCo did not go that big to begin with... good question!
Because of the target demographic the bike was developed for;
Countries with CC stepped licenses, countries with lots and lots of riders doing very short distance commutes and as a smaller European college ride.
And they sell it in the USA to the dealers for the motorcycle courses. Plus they are hoping the hipsters might like it. Judging from the ads I have seen.
They sure hit the size on the head as it sells like mad overseas.
Bottle the thing for cheaper HP on call when you need it.
The real problem you run up against is the fact this one is a single overhead cam. If this followed the Revolution with the double cam you could flow the shitt out of the system. Single, not so much without boost.
I see it more as a repair option, but some people will push these engines to the limit. I think a kit to bring the 500cc up to an 800cc machine would be attractive to some buyers. Suggest some pipes and intake and cams to really make a huge difference in power.
any feedback on the durability of these new motors?? Are they like the UJM's of old (in-line OHC 4's) that you could ride around on red-line all day - everyday! :redrolf:
The 500 can be upped to a 550? And, the 750 to a 800? Can the 500 get the 800 Kit? That's the only way it seems worth it to me. You can pay the Insurance for a 500cc Bike and actually be riding a 800cc Bike; that's cool... And, the price difference, between the 500 & 750, makes it worth your while, if you plan on keeping your Bike for the long term...
Why just increase a bore by just 50cc; that's a waste of funds, to me? These come with what, about 40hp? Give them 80hp with a big bore kit that includes intake, cams, cylinders, gaskets, exhaust, and anything else you would need to do the conversion at home, in your own Garage; that would be something... And, do it for less than a grand...
If HD did something like that, these would become super popular among those that are starting out and those on a budget and need a Bike they can maintain and repair on their own. But, it would be important for HD to not get greedy and start taking advantage of their popularity and start charging too much for their "Budget" Bike... I believe price is key to this one's success; HD needs to keep it super easy to purchase, customize, modify, maintain, and repair. If they do that, with this one, they will have a new "Winner" to add to their "Classic" line of Bikes...
Peace, Stiletto
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