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I know a lot of people have been having problems with the LCD Oil Temp Dip Stick, but...

What do you guys think of this new product?

Oil Level and Temperature Dipstick with Lighted LCD Readout


If it works and reads true, the only time you'll have to take it off is when you put oil in the bike.

What do you guys think?

Who'll be the first to get one and post a review?

Maybe me?

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I saw this the other day and wondered the same things as you. I had great luck with my old dig. temp. one until one day it quit. One of the solders had come off inside.

I'm not sure how this new one can give a level indication. However, I am intrigued. If this one is of better quality and acurate I think it would be a good investment.
 

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Nice product, I wish they offered this thing long ago. I have the Digital LCD Temp Gauge and haven't had any problems with it as of yet. With all the reviews on this site, I'm scared to check my damn oil sometimes, scared that'll break. I hope this particular product has some postive reviews.
 

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For $135, I'll gladly forego the convenience and suffer through the risk of burning my fingers. I mean seriously, would your really risk the price of a new engine to an overpriced device that has proven to be minimally reliable (at best!) since its introduction? Call me a sceptic, but I will ALWAYS have to see my oil level with my own two eyes.
 

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@gree:
Just another fancy device to screw up and maybe cost you some big bucks.
 

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Blue Glider said:
For $135, I'll gladly forego the convenience and suffer through the risk of burning my fingers. I mean seriously, would your really risk the price of a new engine to an overpriced device that has proven to be minimally reliable (at best!) since its introduction? Call me a sceptic, but I will ALWAYS have to see my oil level with my own two eyes.
Good point.
 

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Its not that hard to check your oil. I do mine weekly. It doesn't bother me that much. I wouldn't buy it cause better places to spend money and relibilty. Mostly money.

Do goldwings have these?
 

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Most of the time I just pull it out cold, in the morning a few inches so can see about where its at on the dipstick. Not 100% relible put you know ballbark. Unless you got a problem, thats goof enough.
 

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H-D Needs To Address A Design/Function Defect

18 April, 2013

[Xero, Home Base]

Harley-Davidson Motor Company
3700 West Juneau Ave., PO Box 653,
Milwaukee, WI 53201 41 4/342-4680

Attn: Matt Gartman, Customer Care
Re: 0002026845

We are in receipt of your 8 April, 2013 (enclosed).

We own a 2010 Harley-Davidson FLHX "Street Glide," with a 5 yr. extended factory warranty. Including accessories, apparel, etc. we have easily in excess of $35,000 spent with Harley-Davidson. Up until this LCD Dipstick incident, we have been happy with Harley-Davidson products, sales, service. We expect Harley-Davidson to stand behind its products and to provide service to its customer base.

Your Customer Care representative writes: "We appreciate your support of our company and our products. We understand that this is not the answer your were hoping for and hope that it does not deter you from using our products in the future." Such statements are presumptuous, naive, and patronizing.

Digital Dipstick #63030-09

We understand entirely that this returned item is not covered by warranty. Our 27 February 2013 cover letter to Harley-Davidson (enclosed) stated as much. The issue with this product is one of "merchantability" -- a legal term referring to a product functioning as designed and marketed.

The most cursory search online readily demonstrates that this product has had condensation issues since at least 2006. Condensation in the LCD is a known issue, but apparently Harley-Davidson finds it acceptable business ethics to continue selling this item with all its known design defects, and then refusing to address customer concerns when brought to Harley-Davidson's attention. The product design is defective. Harley-Davidson knows the product design is defective and yet continues to market this item.

Harley Davidson online marketing of this product states:

http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?PRODUCT<>prd_id=845524448773727&default=none

"Designed to be waterproof,"

This product is NOT "waterproof" and in fact invariably accumulates moisture in the LCD display. This accumulation of moisture causes the LCD display to blacken and fail. We contend, accordingly, that the H-D Digital Dipstick #63030-09 is fundamentally not merchantable as marketed and is in fact defective in design.

We should have fully expected Harley-Davidson Customer Care to address matters of design defect and merchantability in our first inquiry into this matter. Instead, our inquiry is dismissed as a pro forma "warranty issue" without issues of merchantability and defective design being addressed.

We seek remedy to compel Harley-Davidson to address defective design and merchantability in this product

Please find enclosed a Demand Letter specifying our allegations regarding said product merchantability, our expectations for resolution of this matter, and a date by which we expect this matter to be addressed by Harley-Davidson principals . Failing Harley-Davidson acknowledgment of these concerns and reasonable indication that it is the intent of Harley-Davidson to address the design defects in this product and to reach a fair resolution with us, we shall seek civil resolution either in Small Claims Court or a class action.
 
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