Just when you thought EPA regs were bad..

How long before the coyote finally catches that damm roadrunner?

...see this is what happen when you let the government take your guns.

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(That's called a "joke"... but maybe it isn't.)

czar said:

...see this is what happen when you let the government take your guns.

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(That's called a "joke"... but maybe it isn't.)

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Yeah...you may be joking but, it's the truth...

How long until they include speed data, then sell the data to insurance companies and issue tickets? How long until the USA adopts the same system?

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Its already being done here in the US

Cleveland,Ohio is already puting cameras at certain intersections for automatic ticket writing for blowing red lights and other cameras for speeding tickets. Baltimore and other major cities (I can't think of right now) as far as I know are where the Cleveland mayor got the idea from. She(the mayor at the time) originally proposed it as a revenue source for the City!!!!:dunno:

Big Brother is already watching you!!!

Cleveland ain't got $hit on Missouri. They have a plan in place to start tracking cars by the cell phones in them. That's right, your GPS enabled phone will tell MODOT how fast you are traveling along the major highways in the Great State of Missouri.


Under strict privacy garuantee of course.

Does it make you wonder how the GPS locter in your new car, or your map finder is used to track you?

Iread how one guy's 'ole lady used his GPS records to rake him over in a divorce.

czar said:

...see this is what happen when you let the government take your guns.

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You are quite right. It isnt a joke.

They've been using speed trap cameras on the German Autobahns for years, as well as red light cameras. It's hard to fight a ticket when the camera shows a clear picture of a driver picking their nose with their mistress in the car. That happens sometimes.
I don't like the speed cameras, but I don't have a problem with red light cameras.

When I lived in Germany, I got a speeding ticket in a Dodge Omni of all vehicles.

czar said:

...see this is what happen when you let the government take your guns.

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Or makes the Patriot Act permanent...

czar said:

...see this is what happen when you let the government take your guns.

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What on Earth makes you think we let the government take our guns ?

One for you, one for me, one for you, two for me, one for you, three ........

Government estimates in Europe generally are that around 50% of all guns are held off-ticket by otherwise law-abiding citizens.

They keep this estimate low, because they don't want to frighten the crap out of the urban liberal pricks by telling them the real number

JamieWG said:

Britain will begin monitoring every automobile journey.

Britain is to become the first country in the world where the movements of all vehicles on the roads are recorded. A new national surveillance system will hold the records for at least two years.

Using a network of cameras that can automatically read every passing number plate, the plan is to build a huge database of vehicle movements so that the police and security services can analyse any journey a driver has made over several years.


http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/transport/article334686.ece

How long until they include speed data, then sell the data to insurance companies and issue tickets? How long until the USA adopts the same system?

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Just a note of reality here. They already issue tickets and they are prevented by law from even releasing the data, let alone selling it.

This does not refer to anything new. The only change is to modify the existing CCTV network to be able to read and transmit the license plate number digitally.

This allows the police to use computers to find the bad guys, rather than, as at present, having to have officers dig through thousands of hours of TV footage reading the license plates by eye.

It's just as likely to prove my innocence as my guilt, and I think it's a thoroughly good idea.

But then, I also think Genghis Khan was a ***** footing liberal weakling

Sounds like it'll work on the "casual criminal" like speeders and maybe a dummy robbing a convenience store. I'd think any serious criminal, terrorist, etc. would have the sense to use an alternate plate when necessary.
I understand in Illinois the work zones will be monitored by photo radar. No more speeding at 58 mph through those endless miles of barrels with not a worker in site!

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I'd think any serious criminal, terrorist, etc. would have the sense to use an alternate plate when necessary.

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Our lot just steal the whole car

Don't worry, at the moment, your phone conversations are more of a priority than your movements....Gives 'em a nice heads up on who will be more of a tracking priority in the future, though....

Yeah, it's only the liberals who are after your privacy and liberties.

Goes to show you were never really free ti'll we dead. Go and read the book "1984". That's some freaky stuff.

tell me if i'm wrong but, can't they triangulate cell phone signals now? pretty good tracking devise already...

bigsteam said:

tell me if i'm wrong but, can't they triangulate cell phone signals now? pretty good tracking devise already...

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Yeah but they can't go back in time and do that. If they take pics of your car, they can keep 'em forever and just punch in a date/license no and see where you went that day.

JamieWG said:

Yeah but they can't go back in time and do that.

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The technology in Europe tracks your cell phone location by which cell it communicates with, so it places you down to line of sight - a few hundred yards either way.

Under a new EU agreement, those records are now kept for seven years, so they can backtrack you in Europe.

Don't forget you also leave a track every time you use a credit card