Are you sure the engine rotation is right. :duh?:
It Started!
Well, I did my 95" build myself. Fired on the first crank.?prty: I want to thank Dewey and Steve(HDWrench) for the technical assistance. Also want to thank Steve for the quick turn around on my parts. I went with the fairly common 95", 37g, 9.7:1 comp. set-up. I did not port the heads based on Dewey's thought that it's really not needed for 06 heads. Based on what I saw with mine apart and compared to pics I have seen of earlier TC heads I'd say unless you want to squeeze that last HP or two out he's right. The ports and passages are wide open with no restrictions and I had absolutely no casting flash or other oddities in mine. Once I get the miles on it I'll dyno it and see how much I actually gave up by not porting.
Joe
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GREAT looking for the first burn out pic!!! I have a wall that needs pictures.
Did you mill .030 off of the heads like I told you ? Did you use a Cometic .030 head gasket ?
I did use the Cometic .030 but rather than mill the head I went with the CP pistons that Steve recommended so I'm at 9.7:1. If anyone is in the market I have a set of SE cast flat tops for sale.SILVER BULLET said:Did you mill .030 off of the heads like I told you ? Did you use a Cometic .030 head gasket ?
Dewey, hope I didn't offend you but I went to Steve for the parts as I needed tools for the build and I couldn't find anyone nearby that would do a money order for as much as I wanted. I guess I could have tried a bank but when Steve returned my call about the tools one thing lead to another and it just was easier and quicker to get it all at one time.
Joe
Congrats jsilva!! can't wait to read your ride/seat of pants report, should go something like this!
"The build was just completed a little over a week ago. it is an 01 FLTRI/Road Glide for those of you who haven't read about it previously. it consisted of Bigboyz heads, tw37 cams 9.7:1 CR, V&H Propipe and a Gerolamy 42mm bored throttle body/intake. It was broken in on the dyno and the PCIII custom mapped.
All I can say is this thing is AWESOME!! It pulls great from about 2300 up but really hits like a freight train about 2800, then a blink of an eye and yer at 5k. The acceleration is amazing, the roll on from cruising R's is much better than I had ever expected. At one spot, I came around a corner with a long straight flat stretch of road ahead and great visibility, I was cruising at about 2800 in 5th (60mph, something just not feasible before) and I rolled on and started counting while watching the road not the speedo, 1000-1, 1000-2, 1000-3,... when I got to 6, I looked down at the speedo, 105mph! had I gone from 4th to 5th, would have been way quicker but this was amazing enough cuz I like to go 100 but not many spots around the places I ride,now theres alot more places! Just seat of the pants impressions as they relate to the kind of riding I do most of the time which is 2 lane county roads with twisties and small hills, alot of 30mph to 60mph stuff, use to require a some shifting cuz when at stage 1, my bike just wouldn't pull out of an uphill switchback from 2400 rpm with any authority, when I am leaned over like that I want some power to pull me out of the corner. No more downshifting and keeping the bike above 3k all the time anymore now, plenty of torque and power to pull me through.
One of the things I couldn't help but notice was how effortlessly the motor seemed to perform all of these amazing feats. It just never seemed like it was really working hard."
Enjoy!!!
"The build was just completed a little over a week ago. it is an 01 FLTRI/Road Glide for those of you who haven't read about it previously. it consisted of Bigboyz heads, tw37 cams 9.7:1 CR, V&H Propipe and a Gerolamy 42mm bored throttle body/intake. It was broken in on the dyno and the PCIII custom mapped.
All I can say is this thing is AWESOME!! It pulls great from about 2300 up but really hits like a freight train about 2800, then a blink of an eye and yer at 5k. The acceleration is amazing, the roll on from cruising R's is much better than I had ever expected. At one spot, I came around a corner with a long straight flat stretch of road ahead and great visibility, I was cruising at about 2800 in 5th (60mph, something just not feasible before) and I rolled on and started counting while watching the road not the speedo, 1000-1, 1000-2, 1000-3,... when I got to 6, I looked down at the speedo, 105mph! had I gone from 4th to 5th, would have been way quicker but this was amazing enough cuz I like to go 100 but not many spots around the places I ride,now theres alot more places! Just seat of the pants impressions as they relate to the kind of riding I do most of the time which is 2 lane county roads with twisties and small hills, alot of 30mph to 60mph stuff, use to require a some shifting cuz when at stage 1, my bike just wouldn't pull out of an uphill switchback from 2400 rpm with any authority, when I am leaned over like that I want some power to pull me out of the corner. No more downshifting and keeping the bike above 3k all the time anymore now, plenty of torque and power to pull me through.
One of the things I couldn't help but notice was how effortlessly the motor seemed to perform all of these amazing feats. It just never seemed like it was really working hard."
Enjoy!!!
Doesn't go quite like that yet, but I did get about 45 miles on it today. Pulls hard right off idle. Shame I can't really get up over 3k much cause your right about the pull from 2400. It really starts to bark about then. It might be a bit of exaggeration but it seems to need about half as much throttle as a stocker to hit the same speed/distance. Got on the freeway for a couple miles on the return from my ride and I couldn't believe how effortless merging was even though I was HUA(head up ass) when I started up the ramp(flock of wild turkeys on the ramp shoulder! Where's my shotgun?)and had to jump from 45 to 70 pretty quickly. Can't wait to get the miles on and get a good map on the dyno. Although the map Steve sent me for the break in is damn close.(No decel popping and no cough through the intake and absolutely no hesitation in the throttle response.)?prty:adlerx said:Congrats jsilva!! can't wait to read your ride/seat of pants report, should go something like this!
"The build was just completed a little over a week ago. it is an 01 FLTRI/Road Glide for those of you who haven't read about it previously. it consisted of Bigboyz heads, tw37 cams 9.7:1 CR, V&H Propipe and a Gerolamy 42mm bored throttle body/intake. It was broken in on the dyno and the PCIII custom mapped.
All I can say is this thing is AWESOME!! It pulls great from about 2300 up but really hits like a freight train about 2800, then a blink of an eye and yer at 5k. The acceleration is amazing, the roll on from cruising R's is much better than I had ever expected. At one spot, I came around a corner with a long straight flat stretch of road ahead and great visibility, I was cruising at about 2800 in 5th (60mph, something just not feasible before) and I rolled on and started counting while watching the road not the speedo, 1000-1, 1000-2, 1000-3,... when I got to 6, I looked down at the speedo, 105mph! had I gone from 4th to 5th, would have been way quicker but this was amazing enough cuz I like to go 100 but not many spots around the places I ride,now theres alot more places! Just seat of the pants impressions as they relate to the kind of riding I do most of the time which is 2 lane county roads with twisties and small hills, alot of 30mph to 60mph stuff, use to require a some shifting cuz when at stage 1, my bike just wouldn't pull out of an uphill switchback from 2400 rpm with any authority, when I am leaned over like that I want some power to pull me out of the corner. No more downshifting and keeping the bike above 3k all the time anymore now, plenty of torque and power to pull me through.
One of the things I couldn't help but notice was how effortlessly the motor seemed to perform all of these amazing feats. It just never seemed like it was really working hard."
Enjoy!!!
Joe
That is the most amazing thing to me JS, the effortlessness of it, it takes such a tiny amount of throttle! The motor just never feels like it's working hard. Before, I made that motor work all the time. To stay "up on the cam" I had to run, even cruise at at least 32-3400 and the motor was definately working! We are just gonna love these builds!!!
Amen brother, before this build I had serious doubts about how much I was going to enjoy longer trips where I had to run the freeway.(CA freeways average about 75mph)But just the little taste I had tonight changed my mind 70-75 wasn't even work for this engine now. 80-85mph cruise is going to be reasonable. :Banadanceadlerx said:That is the most amazing thing to me JS, the effortlessness of it, it takes such a tiny amount of throttle! The motor just never feels like it's working hard. Before, I made that motor work all the time. To stay "up on the cam" I had to run, even cruise at at least 32-3400 and the motor was definately working! We are just gonna love these builds!!!
Joe
Jas and adlerx,
I have the BB kit. Money got tight this winter so I haven't gotten around to sending the heads off (04). gonna go with the 37g cams and @9.7:1 CR.
How difficult was the nuts and bolts of the build? Have either of you attempted something like this before?
I want to do the work myself both for the money issue as well as the pride in doing it myself. I'm pretty handy and can follow a manual without issue. Have done more than my share of shadetree work in my day.
I'm a bit apprehensive and don't want to start something I can't finish on my own.
I have the BB kit. Money got tight this winter so I haven't gotten around to sending the heads off (04). gonna go with the 37g cams and @9.7:1 CR.
How difficult was the nuts and bolts of the build? Have either of you attempted something like this before?
I want to do the work myself both for the money issue as well as the pride in doing it myself. I'm pretty handy and can follow a manual without issue. Have done more than my share of shadetree work in my day.
I'm a bit apprehensive and don't want to start something I can't finish on my own.
I did my 95" build myself this year. Not hard to do at all! I have never done anything inside a motorcycle engine before but have always done my own auto maintenance You sound like you know your way around a wrench! Go for it! The manual is invaluable. There were some things that I just wasn't clear on. Just ask the forum! Many people were there to give good advice. If I can help in any way I would be glad to! You will not believe the feeling you get when you hit the starter and it fires up and you can say I did it! :clap:
You can do it.
Gunnut, if you know the basics of checking ring end gap and installing pistons with a ring compressor and have access to a hydraulic press(yours or a local shop) you'll have no problems at all. My experience was all with SB chevys and 2 stroke bike and jet ski engines before this. It took me 14 hours from the time I lifted the bike onto the jack until I fired it up. Just pay attention to the details in the shop manual and take notes and mark ALL parts to return to the engine. Pushrods(different for intake/exhaust), ring end gap orientation, and aligning the oil pump are all things that stand out for me as being really critical. Take your time and watch for all the little bits and pieces as you disassemble and it'll be fine. As pa-glazier said there are plenty of good people hear that will help with any problems that arise. E-mail me and I'll send you my phone number and help out if I can since most of the details are still fresh in my mind.
Joe
Oh yeah, there are lots of good vendors here also but Dewey and Steve(HDWrench/GMR performance) are a wealth of information and great to work with. Steve will also send you rental tools for all the specialized things like removing inner cam bearings. I bought pretty much everything from him for my build and he walked me thru all the details to make sure I had everything I needed. Dewey is great for head porting, and honest as can be, he actually talked me out of spending money on my heads as he thinks the 06 heads are pretty good stock and would have felt guilty taking my money for not doing much.
Gunnut, if you know the basics of checking ring end gap and installing pistons with a ring compressor and have access to a hydraulic press(yours or a local shop) you'll have no problems at all. My experience was all with SB chevys and 2 stroke bike and jet ski engines before this. It took me 14 hours from the time I lifted the bike onto the jack until I fired it up. Just pay attention to the details in the shop manual and take notes and mark ALL parts to return to the engine. Pushrods(different for intake/exhaust), ring end gap orientation, and aligning the oil pump are all things that stand out for me as being really critical. Take your time and watch for all the little bits and pieces as you disassemble and it'll be fine. As pa-glazier said there are plenty of good people hear that will help with any problems that arise. E-mail me and I'll send you my phone number and help out if I can since most of the details are still fresh in my mind.
Joe
Oh yeah, there are lots of good vendors here also but Dewey and Steve(HDWrench/GMR performance) are a wealth of information and great to work with. Steve will also send you rental tools for all the specialized things like removing inner cam bearings. I bought pretty much everything from him for my build and he walked me thru all the details to make sure I had everything I needed. Dewey is great for head porting, and honest as can be, he actually talked me out of spending money on my heads as he thinks the 06 heads are pretty good stock and would have felt guilty taking my money for not doing much.
Gunnut, go to this website for a nice pictorial on a 95" build on a Road King. It really helps get the procedure laid out in your mind before you start.
http://www.harleyhog.co.uk/1550/bbonline.htm
Joe
http://www.harleyhog.co.uk/1550/bbonline.htm
Joe
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