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Do you really believe what we are told? There is so much history that should show us not to believe what we are told. No one is pulling strings, no master mind behind this.

The Media figured out a long long time ago how to instrumental the public into a fear and a belief. A lot of people use the term, "lead like cattle" and there is truth to it.

Even tho there is a hell of a lot more just Start with Wounded Knee and look up how the papers wrote about justifying that massacre first wave and how long it took for the truth to be exposed on what happened, and that mainly came from a woman secretly taking pics of the massacre that eventually got printed. .
 

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Do you really believe what we are told? There is so much history that should show us not to believe what we are told. No one is pulling strings, no master mind behind this.

The Media figured out a long long time ago how to instrumental the public into a fear and a belief. A lot of people use the term, "lead like cattle" and there is truth to it.

Even tho there is a hell of a lot more just Start with Wounded Knee and look up how the papers wrote about justifying that massacre first wave and how long it took for the truth to be exposed on what happened, and that mainly came from a woman secretly taking pics of the massacre that eventually got printed. .
Dunno about that twood... I think there are indeed string-pullers, several groups of them and overall, "we the people" are seriously rolled, screwed and soon-to-be tattooed. What we're experiencing IMO, is a full-on orchestrated coup attempt combined with the open destruction of America via forced conversion to socialism. It's straight out of the 1917 Russian revolution. Our society has been heavily propagandized for the last 50 years or so and our people thoroughly indoctrinated with each successive generation more so than the previous. Anyone espousing what used to be "common sense" is viciously attacked, branded a horrid label and beaten into silence by the subversive left. The tactics and strategies are by design. Much of the subversive work began here in the '20s when individual institutions were targeted with specific action plans. Google Bella Dodd for a start. Read about the Bolsheviks and anarchist activities in pre-revolution Russia, then later in Weimar Germany. Today, in our country the same fellow travelers have worked tirelessly, but their actions have been complemented by those of other subversives such as "radical islam", our own MIC and deep state, and the CCP. Combined, these subversive operations are formidable. What we're seeing from our own pols is a psyop effort, specifically an information operation, the likes of which were previously reserved only for our enemies. Sadly, the "SQUIRREL!!" technique remains very effective. Critical thinking, not so much.
 

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Anyone espousing what used to be "common sense" is viciously attacked
First off history does repeat itself, But America is different I think, to many people that have the American attitude on "leave me alone" verses "take care of me I don't work"

Part of your quote I'd like to say about, This is exactly used by the media in my opinion, they tear up and tape together reports so it teaches a attack response to a common sense on a story, your labeled a racist or closed minded if you don't agree now, It's a simple tool they use and very successful in their eyes because thats what they plaster on tv is the supposedly overwhelming repsonse to the story they want out. Again I and you get most of all this info and make decisions based off news reports and if the media is guided to show only one side, it scares the public into the fence opening that is needed.

I'll use the Covid issue, scared the crap out of me at first, had my attention for about 30 days on it and then common sense started to question what was being reported. I believe there is a covid 19, do I believe the rest, not really.

Now take how many people don't follow along with the media reports, these riots and the second wave of covid, how so many people hate Trump,take all that plus some and compare people who believe and who don't? There is real numbers out there of people that don't fall for all this crap and it's a larger number than the people that do but again the media will say differ, Media will cut and paste video showing a small rally and or a large rally, it's lies.

What can we agree on then?, something is coming to a boil sooner than we think, The media is betting here a huge gamble that we all are united on these issues and we are out numbered if we resist, the battle really hasn't started, when it does it's gonna be very bad civil war. because once someone with common sense unite common sense people over a formal and authoritative order, especially one having the force of law to stop this media and it's lies and take order over thugged out crime wave cities is when it will get serious vs them thinking it's serious now? LoL

even I have turned the news off, it's a horrible ploy of emotions and doom over what? are we really that bad everywhere with these concerns? I think not.
 

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First off history does repeat itself, But America is different I think, to many people that have the American attitude on "leave me alone" verses "take care of me I don't work"

Part of your quote I'd like to say about, This is exactly used by the media in my opinion, they tear up and tape together reports so it teaches a attack response to a common sense on a story, your labeled a racist or closed minded if you don't agree now, It's a simple tool they use and very successful in their eyes because thats what they plaster on tv is the supposedly overwhelming repsonse to the story they want out. Again I and you get most of all this info and make decisions based off news reports and if the media is guided to show only one side, it scares the public into the fence opening that is needed.

I'll use the Covid issue, scared the crap out of me at first, had my attention for about 30 days on it and then common sense started to question what was being reported. I believe there is a covid 19, do I believe the rest, not really.

Now take how many people don't follow along with the media reports, these riots and the second wave of covid, how so many people hate Trump,take all that plus some and compare people who believe and who don't? There is real numbers out there of people that don't fall for all this crap and it's a larger number than the people that do but again the media will say differ, Media will cut and paste video showing a small rally and or a large rally, it's lies.

What can we agree on then?, something is coming to a boil sooner than we think, The media is betting here a huge gamble that we all are united on these issues and we are out numbered if we resist, the battle really hasn't started, when it does it's gonna be very bad civil war. because once someone with common sense unite common sense people over a formal and authoritative order, especially one having the force of law to stop this media and it's lies and take order over thugged out crime wave cities is when it will get serious vs them thinking it's serious now? LoL

even I have turned the news off, it's a horrible ploy of emotions and doom over what? are we really that bad everywhere with these concerns? I think not.
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But America is different I think, to many people that have the American attitude on "leave me alone" verses "take care of me I don't work"
Concur but it's reaching a point where it's intruding on the "leave me alone" crowd as witnessed with the virus shutdown. When you start restricting liberties under the auspices of "safety", it can quickly lead to totalitarianism.

It's going to get interesting. And soon.

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Concur but it's reaching a point where it's intruding on the "leave me alone" crowd as witnessed with the virus shutdown. When you start restricting liberties under the auspices of "safety", it can quickly lead to totalitarianism.

It's going to get interesting. And soon.

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I agree except about the timeline, I think we have 20 more years of certain lives matters and Antifa and Lord knows who else group comes in to the picture for the Media to put out there that it's growing. That lives Matter and Aunt-Teafa are together and it's only taking 30 of them to work up a group of 300 that have nothing to do with them and don't really want nothing to do with, they are out there to loot and attack, these lives matters and teafa are small numbers still.

Oh and by the way "totalitarianism" nice word there Alan, thats big words for me! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

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Much love to all here but opinion is best based on fact. I repeat: google Bella Dodd, "fellow travelers", Weimar Germany and 1917 Russia. What's occurring today has precedence. I'm done fellas.
 

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Concur but it's reaching a point where it's intruding on the "leave me alone" crowd as witnessed with the virus shutdown. When you start restricting liberties under the auspices of "safety", it can quickly lead to totalitarianism.

It's going to get interesting. And soon.

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Yep... Looks more like test runs to me... See what the public will comply with and tolerate... I've spent the past month taking my lil piece of heaven totally off grid (haven't had much time to look in here) am now totally self sufficient well for at least 2 years before gonna needa replace batteries and 10 years on panels, Started with Comcast refusing to replace cable for internet cause I'm so Isolated so I looked at all the crap going on around the country and decided to hell with it... Don't need Comcast nor power company and got 3 deep wells and way too many guns LOL! Now if I can build a diesel powered scooter 😁 most rioters die of dehydration before they make it out here...
 

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You could probably squeeze a Yanmar in the frame. Not exactly a speed demon but once the libtards kill off anything with a motor you won't need a lot of speed to get away from them. Hell, there won't even be any cows for them to ride so you won't even need to go that fast.
 

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From what a NYC cop I know says they are no longer allowed to put someone on the ground to subdue/cuff them. They have to do it standing up and if the cops on the scene are unable they have to wait for more help to wrangle the alleged criminal. This of course means that it's not too difficult for someone with adequate strength to get away before help arrives. Apparently it's gotten to the point that the only 911 calls given much priority are violent crimes. The remainder are pretty much we'll get there when we finish lunch.
 

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From what a NYC cop I know says they are no longer allowed to put someone on the ground to subdue/cuff them. They have to do it standing up and if the cops on the scene are unable they have to wait for more help to wrangle the alleged criminal. This of course means that it's not too difficult for someone with adequate strength to get away before help arrives. Apparently it's gotten to the point that the only 911 calls given much priority are violent crimes. The remainder are pretty much we'll get there when we finish lunch.
That must do wonders for morale.

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And here's another kicker for NY LEO.


A bill introduced by state Sen. Alessandra Biaggi (D-Bronx) would require police officers to obtain personal liability insurance to cover civil lawsuits filed against them for excessive force and other abuses as a way to deter misconduct.
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That must do wonders for morale.

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No doubt. I'm sure a lot of them that don't care about a retirement are starting to think being a Walmart greeter might not be such a bad gig. It's much like being handed a M-16 in the military and then being told you can only throw rocks at your attackers.
 

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From what a NYC cop I know says they are no longer allowed to put someone on the ground to subdue/cuff them. They have to do it standing up and if the cops on the scene are unable they have to wait for more help to wrangle the alleged criminal. This of course means that it's not too difficult for someone with adequate strength to get away before help arrives. Apparently it's gotten to the point that the only 911 calls given much priority are violent crimes. The remainder are pretty much we'll get there when we finish lunch.
If I chased him once and caught him then he escaped while being cuffed I would wave bye bye.

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