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I have a 05 harley heritage I bought new on 04...I am wanting to put pipes on it and like the looks of the vance and hines big shots staggered.....What I wanting is something that sounds deep and throaty...I do not know if the do sound that way or if that is the best choise of pipes.... I also do not know aht all is invilved in installing them....downloads and the like...Can anyone help?

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Papa_Schmuck
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Welcome to the board. Your post doesn't mention if you have a carb or FI model.
You will want to change the air cleaner to a more free flowing unit, like a Screaming Eagle or Arlen Ness Big Sucker. If you have a carb, you'll have to re-jet in order to compensate for the increased air flow thru the engine. If you have FI, you'll have to have a new map downloaded, most likely the basic Stage 1 map.
It's not a difficult process either way, especially if you pay someone else to do the work for you. If you're fairly handy with the wrenches you can do the parts install yourself. If you have a laptop computer and about $350. you can buy the Screaming Eagle Race Tuner (SERT) and do the mapping yourself. You'll save almost enough on the labor to pay for the SERT. You'll also be able to tweak the map to fit your bike and riding environment better. You can read more about the SERT and tuning here in the EFI forum.
The V&H long shots are loud and throaty. They look great on a Heritage too. You'll probably find several people on the board that have them.
Good luck and have fun with it!
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Thanks !!

Thanks for your help ! Yes it is a FLSTCI ...I should have known to say that LOL...Live and learn rite ! I looked some at the Vance and Hines site and see that they have maps that you can buy with the pipes also..Anyone know anything about that? also..Anyone that has the pipes I would love to hear from you and your opinions on them...they are Vance and Hines bigshot staggered....
Thanks again
Really glad I found this forum

Papa_Schmuck








QUOTE=fourstar]Welcome to the board. Your post doesn't mention if you have a carb or FI model.
You will want to change the air cleaner to a more free flowing unit, like a Screaming Eagle or Arlen Ness Big Sucker. If you have a carb, you'll have to re-jet in order to compensate for the increased air flow thru the engine. If you have FI, you'll have to have a new map downloaded, most likely the basic Stage 1 map.
It's not a difficult process either way, especially if you pay someone else to do the work for you. If you're fairly handy with the wrenches you can do the parts install yourself. If you have a laptop computer and about $350. you can buy the Screaming Eagle Race Tuner (SERT) and do the mapping yourself. You'll save almost enough on the labor to pay for the SERT. You'll also be able to tweak the map to fit your bike and riding environment better. You can read more about the SERT and tuning here in the EFI forum.
The V&H long shots are loud and throaty. They look great on a Heritage too. You'll probably find several people on the board that have them.
Good luck and have fun with it![/QUOTE]
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I don't think I'd buy a map, unless it came with a dyno session to fine tune it. There are plenty of starters available here or with the SERT for free.
I'm riding a 01 Heritage with Long Shots on them, which I love. The reason to think about long shots rather than the staggered pipes are your bags. The Long Shots exhaust behind the bags. With staggered pipes, I suspect you could cook a pizza.:unsure:
You might look into the Screaming Eagle 16 guage. They're made by V & H for Harley, so the dealer says. I've heard both and thought the VH's were kind of loud. The 16 guages, not quite as loud and have a smoother tone. Some don't like the enlarged covers, but I do. I think the price from Zonatti's was about $430 if I remember right.

Chris
I just put BSS on my FLSTFI Annv Model. I changed the baffels to the "V&H Quiet Baffels and I love the pipes. The sound with the quiet baffels is more of a deep sound and not as loud but still louder than my SEll Slip on Mufflers when you get on it.

Xaran
If you're not chasing horsepower & keep the stock aircleaner, you might get away with just a change of pipes without tuning mods.
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