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Anyone use/know about this heat-sink cooler? According to company literature, it was in the H-D Accessory catalog in '97 and later years until the contract with H-D ran out. A polished aluminum finned-piece that fits over the H-D brand oil filter (apparently only H-D branded filters). It kinda makes sense in that it uses fins like the engines do, to help cool the oil in the filter. Got me curious......

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First, for a heat-sink to work correctly it's gotta make very tight connection to the item being "cooled"..
Does this heat sink unit have any gaps in between it's inner surface and the filter exterior.? Does it slip over the filter very tight or just kinda slip over it..
Unless it is very tight, heat transfer by Conduction will Not be very efficient.. Any spaces will first need to transfer heat to the "unit" by Heat radiation before the "unit" can dissipate heat to the world,, also by Heat radiation..

I am gonna guess that your filter mount is on the front of the motor case and the filter lays horizontal across the front yes.?????

In that case I believe the "unit" May be heated more by radiated heat from the motor and consequently be useless..

Um,,, you wouldn't slip a "heat-sink" over your motor heads and barrels attempting to "Heat-sink" heat away would ya.??

If you're serious about an oil cooler perhaps you should actually get one..

Ours cool our motors oil down to approx 180* on our 116* summer days here in the Phoenix valley..
Oil coolers work, don't let anyone steer you diff..
And BTW,,,,, they work even if you're stuck in heavy traffic with alot "idle" time..

Tell anyone that doesn't believe that to wrap their hand around an oil cooler in very heavy traffic, (um, wait till you stop rolling first) and see how long they can Hang till their hand melts..
Remember,, the hotter the head, barrel, or cooler is,, the more it's dissipating heat to the world by radiation..

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Geez bud, I'm just asking about the things. Don't need a treatise on oil coolers. I'm very aware of oil coolers, just not this type which is why I ask the question.
 

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I would agree with risco-frigid. I reckon the finned heat sink cooler is more of a showy gimmick than a practical design. Saying that, if the standard HD filter were constructed with cooling fins, it would then work in hot conditions. Mid winter conditions would cause a bit of a problem though. :eek:
 

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From what I've read in company literature, it 'hugs' the filter....IOW it's a tight fit with a 'persuader' being used for installation. That this piece was in the H-D accessory catalog and the manufacturer was under contract by H-D, is more what caught my eye. Listed in the H-D catalog for $60. Maybe no one bought the thing is why the contract was not renewed, but who knows? H-D normally doesn't have junk parts/pieces under their brand. H-D engineering department must have approved it.

Was hoping someone with actual use-experience/knowledge knew about the unit would provide some insight. Don't know what other words I could have used in that first sentence to make it clear that I was asking for hands-on experience/knowledge. Without that it's only a guess....
 

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If H-D is selling....then somebody else already has been selling a BETTER one That really works H-D is about 5 years behind the real after-market world that H-D let slip out of there Hands when companys Like S&S started thinking outside the Box ! Try a ULTRA COOL OIL COOLER


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I have had one on my '08 Street Bob for 3 years . It has to be forced on over the factory filter ( I used a rubber hammer ) . Does it cool the oil ? not sure but I thought I would give it a try . It looks nice ................
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Hi man

First, for a heat-sink to work correctly it's gotta make very tight connection to the item being "cooled"..
Does this heat sink unit have any gaps in between it's inner surface and the filter exterior.? Does it slip over the filter very tight or just kinda slip over it..
Unless it is very tight, heat transfer by Conduction will Not be very efficient.. Any spaces will first need to transfer heat to the "unit" by Heat radiation before the "unit" can dissipate heat to the world,, also by Heat radiation..

I am gonna guess that your filter mount is on the front of the motor case and the filter lays horizontal across the front yes.?????

In that case I believe the "unit" May be heated more by radiated heat from the motor and consequently be useless..

Um,,, you wouldn't slip a "heat-sink" over your motor heads and barrels attempting to "Heat-sink" heat away would ya.??

If you're serious about an oil cooler perhaps you should actually get one..

Ours cool our motors oil down to approx 180* on our 116* summer days here in the Phoenix valley..
Oil coolers work, don't let anyone steer you diff..
And BTW,,,,, they work even if you're stuck in heavy traffic with alot "idle" time..

Tell anyone that doesn't believe that to wrap their hand around an oil cooler in very heavy traffic, (um, wait till you stop rolling first) and see how long they can Hang till their hand melts..
Remember,, the hotter the head, barrel, or cooler is,, the more it's dissipating heat to the world by radiation..

have a ball
I'M sorry but in my opinion oil coolers are worthless sitting in traffic unless you have air flow. You said it yourself

"Tell anyone that doesn't believe that to wrap their hand around an oil cooler in very heavy traffic, (um, wait till you stop rolling first) and see how long they can Hang till their hand melts.."

If the oil cooler was cooling the oil sitting in traffic why would your hand melt? No different then a car radiator. As long as you fan is running everything is fine but turn it off and see how fast your car will overheat. Just my opinion.
 

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Hi Milan

Gee, I thought this would be obvious to anyone,,,, if the cooler is very hot, that means it is dissipating heat..
If,, on the other hand,, it is cool to the touch it is holding heat like a Thermos..

You can hold your Thermos bottle in your hand with Scalding hot coffee in it and it may even feel cold if you're in chilly weather,,, that's because it is holding in the heat..

If it is as hot as the coffee inside, that means it is shedding heat and allowing the coffee to cool..

Ooooh gosh,,, I didn't mean to give you a Treatise on how Thermos's work cus you're prob Very Aware of Thermos's..

Hey ah,,,, how hot does it get in Montana..??

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I used to have a Thermos. It had huge opening at the top so you could use it for soup. Or you could use it for cold stuff if you wanted.

My question is HOW DID IT KNOW?


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Hi Milan

Gee, I thought this would be obvious to anyone,,,, if the cooler is very hot, that means it is dissipating heat..
If,, on the other hand,, it is cool to the touch it is holding heat like a Thermos..

You can hold your Thermos bottle in your hand with Scalding hot coffee in it and it may even feel cold if you're in chilly weather,,, that's because it is holding in the heat..

If it is as hot as the coffee inside, that means it is shedding heat and allowing the coffee to cool..

Ooooh gosh,,, I didn't mean to give you a Treatise on how Thermos's work cus you're prob Very Aware of Thermos's..

Hey ah,,,, how hot does it get in Montana..??

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Hey shovelmike,,, how ya doing ole bud
Oh I get it. How stupid of me. So if the oil cooler is hot enough to melt your hand if you touch it that means the oil inside is now very cold. Wow I should have known.

It gets into the high 90s and breaks 100F in the summer in Montana.
 

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Hi Milan

---------"Oh I get it. How stupid of me. So if the oil cooler is hot enough to melt your hand if you touch it that means the oil inside is now very cold. Wow I should have known."------------

I'll type this very slowly so you can follow along......

NO,,,, the oil will Not be "Very cold"..
It will be cooler however because it will be Transferring heat to the cooler body and the cooler body will be Dissipating the heat into your hand or the out-side world where it's supposed to be going,,, hot day or not..

You know, I try to have honest straight-forward conversations about stuff I have Hands-On First-Hand experience with and when guys like you attempt to "over-blow" a statement by saying the oil will be "Very cold",,, it simply shows a lack of experience on your part or that you just wish to be difficult about something you said that is wrong..

I've stated the truth, Not a worthless 2nd-hand 3rd-person factually baseless opinion.. If you wanna dick around with this thread some more,, have a ball,, I'm done with it..
 

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Hi Milan

---------"Oh I get it. How stupid of me. So if the oil cooler is hot enough to melt your hand if you touch it that means the oil inside is now very cold. Wow I should have known."------------

I'll type this very slowly so you can follow along......

NO,,,, the oil will Not be "Very cold"..
It will be cooler however because it will be Transferring heat to the cooler body and the cooler body will be Dissipating the heat into your hand or the out-side world where it's supposed to be going,,, hot day or not..

You know, I try to have honest straight-forward conversations about stuff I have Hands-On First-Hand experience with and when guys like you attempt to "over-blow" a statement by saying the oil will be "Very cold",,, it simply shows a lack of experience on your part or that you just wish to be difficult about something you said that is wrong..

I've stated the truth, Not a worthless 2nd-hand 3rd-person factually baseless opinion.. If you wanna dick around with this thread some more,, have a ball,, I'm done with it..
Its because of statements like this:

Ours cool our motors oil down to approx 180* on our 116* summer days here in the Phoenix valley..
Oil coolers work, don't let anyone steer you diff..
And BTW,,,,, they work even if you're stuck in heavy traffic with alot "idle" time..

Please explain how a oil cooler with no air flow can achieve such results. I realize that oil cooler will transfer some heat but I seriously doubt it will as much as you think it will.
 
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