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A few weeks ago I spent a couple of days riding a new Harley Fatboy around Arizona. Now just for the record, I have never spent any real time on a Harley. My previous bikes have all been rice burning Honda’s. A little over a year ago I decided to start looking for something a little more exciting and found myself torn between a Harley Fatboy and a new Indian Spirit. As fate would have it the Spirit won the day.

Now this decision was not without some agony mind you. Having read the many forum messages I was very much aware of the so-called problems. Oil blowing out of the carb, shock leaks and noisy rockers just to name a few. The worst criticism came from the die hard Harley people. Hell the Indian is just a Harley clone they said. Why buy an imitation when you can have the real thing. Oh, by the way, did I tell you that I am an engineer and have been helping Harley make motors for about ten years now.

So why did I choose the Sprit over the Fatboy. At the time it came down to three things. Looks, Looks and Looks. What can I say, the Spirit is one awesome looking bike and I knew it would draw attention. The kicking S&S motor did not hurt either.

So it’s been well over a year and what do I think. Well the more I looked into things, the supposed problems seamed to make sense. Issues such as oil blowing out of the carb is perfectly normal for that type of motor. A simple cool looking modification and no more oil leaking. The noisy taping in the motor had more to do with performance cams then supposed poor craftsmanship. I did have one legitimate problem, a leaky fork seal. Fixed in a day by my friendly dealer. Other then that it’s been nothing but great riding and long looks from everyone I pass.

So that gets me back to were I started. My ride through Arizona on the Fatboy. After about three hundred miles it finally dawned on me what I was experiencing. On the surface I was riding a well-made motorcycle that ran flawlessly and did it’s job well. Yet something was wrong. Whether it was the smooth start from the fuel injected motor or the abundance of stamped out steel parts the Fatboy seemed to lack the very thing that had made Harley great. Character! Harley had finally succeeded in making a *** Bike. Then all the negative comments started to make sense. The quality issues, arguments about authenticity (remember the AMF days) and a general bitching were nothing different then the ***/Harley argument twenty years ago. And just like twenty years ago it all came down to one thing. Character.

Indian may not make the best bikes out there and perhaps they are not the purest. But at the end of the day they have something Harley has clearly lost, American Character! In my opinion Harley has spent more time worrying about the Japs and creating cute clothing then making bikes with character. I should know, I helped them do it.

My advice to anyone thinking about buying a Harley. Save your money and buy a *** bike. A few custom parts and no one will know the difference. However if you want the real thing go for the Indian or Big Dog!
 

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Where is the checkbox for: "the original poster is a dork, desperately trying to rationalize his purchase of a goofy looking bike made up of catalog parts by guys who bought the Indian name"

And I'll match my Fat Boy's ability to hold it's resale value with that parts bin wonder you think has soooooo much character any day.
 

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Well Jbike65, thanks for that update.

If you think that Harley Davidson just recently started marketing Harley clothing and riding gear you need to do a little history research.....and start researching the time nearly a hundred years ago. Nothing much has changed other than new curiosity seekers not knowing much about the History of HD or much about the bikes other than what they have heard. I've said it before and I'll say it again......Harleys are not for everyone. But those that have them and have experience with them find it very humorous for a non-owner to start giving opinions and advise about something that they have heard or speculate about without any personal experience with them. Also, very many owners have came up through the ranks riding an imported bike. Some still own both. So, I thank you for the education on what we should own or buy....everyone's opinion is welcome here. Stick around. Maybe we can educate you as to the differences in the myths so commonly believed by the non-owners and the real truths. Thanks for your visit.

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Ditto, FifthGear.

OK, jbike65, you got to express your opinion. You're entitled to your opinion. For what it's worth. Many of us here at the H/D Forum enjoy and appreciate several types of motorcycles. But you won't win friends and influence people with your views. If ya' want to stay and enjoy talk about bikes, OK. If ya' want to stir up stuff, well...'nough said.
 

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Anybody else see the irony in a non-Harley owner criticizing them for being too smooth and too refined? We really have come full circle in the days since AMF.
 

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Where is the checkbox for: "the original poster is a dork, desperately trying to rationalize his purchase of a goofy looking bike made up of catalog parts by guys who bought the Indian name"

And I'll match my Fat Boy's ability to hold it's resale value with that parts bin wonder you think has soooooo much character any day.
Just add another check mark for me. Maybe Indian will go out of bussiness for another 50 years because there such great bikes! LMAO
 

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"Whether it was the smooth start from the fuel injected motor or the abundance of stamped out steel parts the Fatboy seemed to lack the very thing that had made Harley great. Character!"



I can understand your shopping for character. When I lack something I tend to put it on the ole shopping list myself.

I won't knock Indians because they are kind of cool. If your bike is the only thing that gives you character, then by all means, keep it.
 

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jbike65,

I don't really think that you have succeeded in your quest to stir up the pot and receive the type of responses that you had hoped for. Sorry if we've dissapointed you. You might try one of the other forums.

One more thing, if you happen to breakdown somewhere and a guy on a Harley stops to help you, make sure you express your thoughts to him about his ride.
 

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I think Kit bike says it all. I have a friend in NJ with an Indian, he loves the bike but he bought it because it was alot less than a HD.

I don't think it being a better bike ever came up.
 

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Where was the circle for : Because I wanted a fuckin' Harley?
 

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Well guys...... I kinda like the Indian. Especially since they started building their own motors, not as much "kit bike" image. As far as character goes, my wife recently asked me how come guys with Harleys are always changing things on their bikes. Two part answer- a. because the bike ends up fitting their character, and b. because they can!!! I don't think that Indian has the abundance of accessories and parts to personalize their bikes like Harley's do. Harley riders come from all walks of life but all hold this deep attraction to their bikes that cannot be put in words. You really have to experiance it for yourself. If the bike purchase is dictated by finances, then do what I did. Don't buy a new bike until you can afford the Harley! And then buy two:D Actually I would buy an Indian if they made an exact reproduction of the old in-line four. They would most likely sell every one they built. Anyhow, enjoy your bike since that's what it's all about!
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Re: ok..ok..

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JBike seemed to have left off an important bullet to cast upon so I helped him out.

Think that it speaks for us all.

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I think you left out one more:
Because Indians Suck & Harley's Kick Ass
LMFAO:D
Does anyone think they could go out of business for 50 years,then some financial group buys there name & uses kit bike parts and thinks there better than a twin cam balanced motor?
I seriously don't think so!!!
 
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