I've wondered about this myself. Wisconsin is one of the few states that strictly prohibits concealed carry (that may change before too long if the Legislature passes a current concealed carry bill and can override the governor's promised veto). What I don't know is, if all I want to do is ride out to a gun club with my Kimber or my Beretta or my Sig and shoot some targets, what are the potential consequences? Carrying a gun in a holster on your hip may strictly be legal here, but is sure as hell would get you pulled over for "disturbing the peace." And putting it in a case, unloaded, by the way I read the laws here, that would be considered concealed carry. I didn't really get any answers at packing.org.
Didn't Isleton get into a little trouble for freely distributing them?newultraclassic said:Carrying a handgun without a permit in California may be a misdemeanor. If the gun is unregistered, there is a felony enhancement. It's extremely difficult, lets's say almost impossible, for an ordinary person to get a firearms permit to carry in California.
Although I know that lots of folks, many of them bikers, that I know carry weapons, it's really not worth the trouble. I don't carry. I just learned to smile a lot.
Wisconsin law requires a firearm to be unloaded and encased when transporting it in a vehicle. A motorcycle is included in the "vehicle" definition in the Wisc. statute. This is not considered concealed carry and you are good to go when transporting it this way.MadCity said:
This statement may unintentionally mislead someone, so I'll clarify it a bit.trackstar55 said:
Thanks Dave. You have a lot of faith in your fellow cops. Michigan has always had vague gun laws. Our concealed carry law passed only a couple of years ago, but it's always been legal to carry unconcealed. Yup, leagally you can walk down the street with a sixshooter strapped to your hip. But don't do it! You'll get busted for something. And therein lies the falacy of the Michigan legal system. Without a concealed carry permit, the laws are vague enough that they can be interpreted differently by different cops and in different circumstances. I suppose this is so because the cops want the leeway to let you go if you look okay to them or to bust you if they have a "feeling" about you. A good friend had his locked range box in the back of his blazer on the way to the range. No concealed carry permit, but conforming with the law.........he thought. Got pulled over for speeding. The first thing the cop did was question his drivers license (he looks a good 10 years younger than he is). Then he asked about the range box. As soon as my friend explained what it was and what was in it, he was told to exit the vehicle. When he questioned whether or not he was under arrest, he was dragged out and handcuffed. The cop then removed the range box, broke the lock as my friend offered to give him the key to it and then busted my friend for carrying illegally. He beat the ticket in court(thank god he didn't get thrown in jail), but the cops refused to give his range box back, including his target pistols. Said they may want to charge him at a later date. He finally had to hire a lawyer to force them to give it back. Ended up costing him a really nice range box and $450 for the lawyer. His lawyer recommended that he get a concealed carry permit just to transport his guns to the range!MegaGlide said:This statement may unintentionally mislead someone, so I'll clarify it a bit.
Only states that have enacted legislation to do so recognize out of state CONCEALED CARRY permits. Many states, like Indiana, require no permit at all to possess, so when someone says "permit", us Hoosiers think concealed.
What protects you when "passing through" a state is the Firearms Owner Protection Act of 1986, a federal law.
If the firearm is unloaded, in a locked case in the trunk (or furthest point from the driver in an SUV, for example, or saddlebag, etc., on a bike) and separate from the ammunition, AND its possession is legal in the state where you started from and in the state you are travelling to, you are protected from the state and local laws that may prohibit its possession in the locality you are passing through.
