I have the Sundowner for my '01 FXDL. It is comfortable, and yes, the passenger area is 12" wide. But, I am going to replace it. On long rides it hurts very much. I think it is too soft, especially for the passenger. We did a 800+ mile weekend this summer, and she was threatening to not get back on until that seat was GONE!! So, I am looking at a Corbin dual tourer with studs (I think she just likes the studs..) .....saw one and the construction was excellent, over all finish looked great, firmer, and is supposed to be much more comfortable than softer saddles. The Corbin seat is 12.5" in the passenger area. It is also much more expensive than the HD saddles.