Does anyone deny that VICTORY inspired Harley to use Brembo brakes , 6 speed trans or wider rear tires ?
I think that much is undeniable.
Oh please.
What Harley uses a 250 tire?
Quite the contrary. First of all, wide tires have been around for years. Did Victory copy "Big Dog?" After all, they sell more bikes than Victory and have used 250 tires for years.
Besides, Harley's widest tire is a 200 and that's on one model, a softtail standard. Not near the 250 that the Hammer and Jackpot has as standard issue. So if they are copying, why would they use a 200 tire? Because it's wider than the 160?
Brembo brakes have been around for a long time before Victory even made a bike. As far as I know, the V-Rod is the only bike to use Brembo's. BMW has had Brembos on their bikes for years. Did Victory "copy" BMW?
As far as a six speed transmission, the Dyna is the only Harley to have the six speed transmission stock. That said, the dyna was completely redesigned for '06. How long do you think it takes for a motorcycle to get redesigned? A couple years. So since the six speed just came out this year on the Hammer, how would Harley be copying Victory?
The development time would put this project in 2003 at least. Far before the Hammer was introduced with a six speed. It was already in the design.
Look, Harley doesn't need to look to Victory for design cues and copying anything. Using your logic, Victory copied Harley by offering a V-twin cruiser in the first place.
I'm rooting for Victory as it's an America bike and has some good attributes.
But I'm always hearing Victory guys talking about how their bike "smokes" a Harley. Great, pat yourself on the back. You beat an 88 ci 62 hp air cooled v-twin. I'll get my Huyabusa and we'll race.
Guys who buy Harleys buy them for other reasons than horsepower, obviously. But I never hear Vic guys saying they beat a V-rod. Never. That's because it will blow any other cruiser away. Including a VTX, the new Suzuki M109, any Yamaha-Star cruiser, Vulcan 2000, and certainly any Victory.
But that's not the point anyway. Guys buy Harley 88's because they have a single pin, 45 degree, air cooled v-twin that can't be replicated. It's authentic and it has Harley-Davidson on the tank. That's enough for the riders that buy Harley.