Yes, sounds like a great deal :yes:DCRANER said:
The only thing I see that I'd change is the SE253 cam. This is the cam they use in factory 103 motors. Its rather tame. the SE 257 would be a better choice.
Dealer 103" Special
My dealer has a special, "103 C.I. Stage I EFI", which includes 253 cams and Stage I 103 heads. Comes with everything including download, air cleaner kit, and SE slip-ons. Says $3,599 including labor. I have SE 16 Gauge exhaust now, so I can sell the new slip-ons that come with it.
Sound like a good deal?
And, is this a real nice up-grade to my 05 FXDWGI, will this be a rich enough download to work well.? My bike with the basic Stage I EFI kit & exhaust is o/k, but seems a little lean at times. The 95" kit with heads and labor is almost as much money, so is the 103" Stage I really the way to go, "and just get to what we all want anyway"?
Sound like a good deal?
And, is this a real nice up-grade to my 05 FXDWGI, will this be a rich enough download to work well.? My bike with the basic Stage I EFI kit & exhaust is o/k, but seems a little lean at times. The 95" kit with heads and labor is almost as much money, so is the 103" Stage I really the way to go, "and just get to what we all want anyway"?
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The only thing I see that I'd change is the SE253 cam. This is the cam they use in factory 103 motors. Its rather tame. the SE 257 would be a better choice.
Good points. What I am thinking is if I do this, even with the 253 cams which is part of the package, would a SERT type Dyno Tune combined with the Stroker 103" be really nice power , drivability (not lean), dependability, and maybe even a little nicer sound?SEDELUXE05 said:dc did you see wrenchs special this month for 98in. where are you doing the build. the down load will not be rich enuff also i would look at another cam and to tune it properly you know what im going to say sert or pc3. there aint no sense to spend 4 grand on something that is not tuned right. this has been discussed here many times if your going to split the cases and have them bore them out new fly wheels and connecting rods id go as big as i can. the question is will you be happy with the 103
thats not a bad deal
I would also do a thermostat oil cooler.
If figure, pay once on a good deal and get a killer combination. Plus I could sell the new SE slip-ons which are in the package.
"Stock" 103s are pooches. I've got a 04 SE glide and my 99 big bore was faster. The 103 heads are big and yield no compression. HD doesn't really make a cam that will work well in this motor except for the 253. I'm changing mine out to the Head Quarters HQ0039 with gear drive. I also went to a .030 head gasket for a little more compression. My advice is take that $3600 and build a nasty little 95" and put a grand back in your pocket.
A stock 103 with pipes, RT,AC and a good tune will make 100/100, whats so doggie about that?
Yes it is a good deal. Most shops want between $4500-$5000(in this area) for the same thing.
Well said DirtyJim. And because it's not radical (for a 103) will be reliable also.
Definately get the RaceTuner and have it properly mapped (ignition and fuel).
Well said DirtyJim. And because it's not radical (for a 103) will be reliable also.
Definately get the RaceTuner and have it properly mapped (ignition and fuel).
Thanks SEDELUXE05, i really like your build specs, but I just figured if I can get the 103 with the good SE heads, etc. for about the same cost of a good 95" kit, it may be worth it. Remember, $3,599 w / labor and includes new SE Slip-Ons which I could sell.SEDELUXE05 said:if you went to 98in cheaper than 103 dont have to split casesjust as reliable and you can get over 100/ 100 for less money. and have 24hr/7day a week support. alos dc save your money on the oil cooler and go to syn oil i run my 95 hard all summer a lot of shore runs and up to the gap 95-100 mph never had no need for oil cooler. but if it gives you piece of mind let me know howyou like it may be ill get one to. we also have to hook yp this summer i hope you get the 103 im loking forward to seeing how it will fair against my build once i put the cams in.:woohoo: :cheers: :hystria:
Also, I would think the 103 would have some nice potential. If Dirty Jim is right, 100 / 100, after a good dyno tune, that would be cool. I thought about the oil cooler just to be on the safe side, maybe overkill, even though I will always run syn. fluids.
You don't see many FXDWG's with a SE 103, would be kind of different. ?prty: :beer: :thumbsup:
I would like to get together, maybe even in this crappy weather if the roads were clear I could throw on my heated jacket liner / gloves and take a ride to ckeck out your ride
You maybe a little had pressed to get close to 100hp with the SE slip-ons.DCRANER said:Thanks SEDELUXE05, i really like your build specs, but I just figured if I can get the 103 with the good SE heads, etc. for about the same cost of a good 95" kit, it may be worth it. Remember, $3,599 w / labor and includes new SE Slip-Ons which I could sell.
Also, I would think the 103 would have some nice potential. If Dirty Jim is right, 100 / 100, after a good dyno tune, that would be cool. I thought about the oil cooler just to be on the safe side, maybe overkill, even though I will always run syn. fluids.
You don't see many FXDWG's with a SE 103, would be kind of different. ?prty: :beer: :thumbsup:
I would like to get together, maybe even in this crappy weather if the roads were clear I could throw on my heated jacket liner / gloves and take a ride to ckeck out your ride
Awesome deal. Do it. :banana:DCRANER said:Remember, $3,599 w / labor.
sounds like a great deal to me. I would do it myself it I was close, and hadn't already spent a bunch on my new build.DCRANER said:My dealer has a special, "103 C.I. Stage I EFI", which includes 253 cams and Stage I 103 heads. Comes with everything including download, air cleaner kit, and SE slip-ons. Says $3,599 including labor. I have SE 16 Gauge exhaust now, so I can sell the new slip-ons that come with it.
Add the Performance Heads or you are restricting bthe build. Substitute the 257 cam (don't even consider the 253). The slip on's will do better than the 16's but a 2-1 will make it roar. Get the SERT. If you want to go top of the line, use the HTCC CNC heads and pistons.
count me in on a central jersey run. which ever day is good. got a new dog to take for a walk! :cheers:SEDELUXE05 said:suppose to be near 50 in the middle of the week ill keep in contact maybe we could hook up some where
IMO, the high cost of the 103 plus splitting the cases and doing all that work for a somewhat mediocore gain isn't worth it. IMO, splitting cases and getting into the bottom end could get kind of messy. Especially if you've got a tech that's not really on the ball. I agree with others that the 98" kit will reap the same performance benefits at more than half the cost without stroking it which can reduce overall engine life.
I would definitely consult with Steve at GMR and thoroughly discuss it before making any decisions.
Just my .02
I would definitely consult with Steve at GMR and thoroughly discuss it before making any decisions.
Just my .02
How do you plan to pull the crank to bore the cases without splitting the cases. Since you are in there anyway do the stroker with the 98". Oh, and there is much more than a mediocre performance gain over setteling for a 95" and stroking to 103" with negligable reduction in engine life.timbo said:IMO, the high cost of the 103 plus splitting the cases and doing all that work for a somewhat mediocore gain isn't worth it. IMO, splitting cases and getting into the bottom end could get kind of messy. Especially if you've got a tech that's not really on the ball. I agree with others that the 98" kit will reap the same performance benefits at more than half the cost without stroking it which can reduce overall engine life.
I would definitely consult with Steve at GMR and thoroughly discuss it before making any decisions.
Just my .02
But I guess if I had setteled for a 95", I'd say the same thing.
First off, I know better than to argue with you Chuck. Keep fishin', someone will eventually bite.
Secondly, I'm merely suggesting the guy talk with HDWRENCH about the Revolution 98" kit which as I'm sure you know does not require case boring. With the right cams this kit can produce 100/100. The point I was trying to get across, as I'm sure everyone else probably understood, was that he could do the Revolution 98" kit , get relatively the same power for alot less money without having to split the cases and install the flywheel and rod set like you would if you were doing the SE 103.
Thirdly, as far as having a 95" I love it. No regrets here. The only thing I can think of that I wouldn't like, would be pissin' my life away in some God forsaken desert without being able to ride it. Now that, would suck.
Secondly, I'm merely suggesting the guy talk with HDWRENCH about the Revolution 98" kit which as I'm sure you know does not require case boring. With the right cams this kit can produce 100/100. The point I was trying to get across, as I'm sure everyone else probably understood, was that he could do the Revolution 98" kit , get relatively the same power for alot less money without having to split the cases and install the flywheel and rod set like you would if you were doing the SE 103.
Thirdly, as far as having a 95" I love it. No regrets here. The only thing I can think of that I wouldn't like, would be pissin' my life away in some God forsaken desert without being able to ride it. Now that, would suck.
Just had mine done for the same $.
Stock "Legal" 103 kit.
Initial Dyno.........
99.7tq, 95.4 hp.
Stock "Legal" 103 kit.
Initial Dyno.........
99.7tq, 95.4 hp.
Absolutely correct.Dirty Jim said:A stock 103 with pipes, RT,AC and a good tune will make 100/100, whats so doggie about that?
My SE FatBoy (06) makes great power with the stock parts.
My next upgrade wqill be to jettison the SE 103 heads and pistons for the HTCC ported heads with the 10.5:1 forged pistons and a lumpy cam. Should have 125TQ/HP without breathing hard.
There's no replacement for displacement.
If I had the extra bucks I'd split the cases and go 113".
Just a side question....What kind of touring mileage will I see with my new stock 103? 65-75mph, FLHTCUI, easy touring miles.Belicoso_Fino said:Absolutely correct.
My SE FatBoy (06) makes great power with the stock parts.
My next upgrade wqill be to jettison the SE 103 heads and pistons for the HTCC ported heads with the 10.5:1 forged pistons and a lumpy cam. Should have 125TQ/HP without breathing hard.
There's no replacement for displacement.
If I had the extra bucks I'd split the cases and go 113".
brwk said:Just a side question....What kind of touring mileage will I see with my new stock 103? 65-75mph, FLHTCUI, easy touring miles.
I get 40/42 range
I'm the same as Jim and have seen 43-44 on longer interstate cruises.
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