[FLSTFI Dave]

Subscribed, with interest, as I have a CVO RG on its way. I'm thinking Dark Horse the crank, cams, head work, exhaust, and tune. Looking for 120/120 and I'd be happy. Realistic?

And yeah, I know, as long as I'm doing the crank may as well do this and that. But I'm trying to draw the line somewhere.

So you decided to go ahead and get the CVO RG.

What color you going with?

I am die for mid Feb to get here when I get my Silver one.

I am thinking I can get to 115 tq with just air cleaner, pipes and tuner. Then I will leave it like that for a year or two.

 

[skyhook]

and to futher justify: for the extra $14k, on the dyna you get a bang-up security system, custom paint, the ignition switch is on the dash where it's supposed to be, a lotta chrome(which ain't s**t to me, but most yuppies seem to like it), upgraded suspension, cool upside-down front end, juice clutch, nicer seat, oh and i almost forgot, 14 CUBIC INCHES!!!!

 

[PR3VS56]

So you decided to go ahead and get the CVO RG.

What color you going with?

I am die for mid Feb to get here when I get my Silver one.

I am thinking I can get to 115 tq with just air cleaner, pipes and tuner. Then I will leave it like that for a year or two.

We'll have to compare notes along the way. Silver, like yours. It's due end of this month. If I can get to 115 tq with pipes, tune, and a/c, I'd be :clap:

 

[jalewis]

So you decided to go ahead and get the CVO RG.

What color you going with?

I am die for mid Feb to get here when I get my Silver one.

I am thinking I can get to 115 tq with just air cleaner, pipes and tuner. Then I will leave it like that for a year or two.

115 isn't too unrealistic.

My dad bought an '08 Softail Springer. Did the pipes, a/c and SERT. He had it dyno tuned and it resulted in 85hp and 114tq. He had the dealer do all of it before he took delivery.

 

[PR3VS56]

115 isn't too unrealistic.

My dad bought an '08 Softail Springer. Did the pipes, a/c and SERT. He had it dyno tuned and it resulted in 85hp and 114tq. He had the dealer do all of it before he took delivery.

Why the low hp #'s on this motor (stock & built)?

 

[jalewis]

No idea. Hopefully someone else can answer that.

 

[arealinvestor]

Why the low hp #'s on this motor (stock & built)?

Its a stock HD with dealer work done to it!!! What do you expect???

 

[skyhook]

the tq # is good, could be pipes, a/c, tuning etc choking the top end

could be a stingy dyno, how does it run on the road?

 

[claydbal]

its da stock cams. they fall on their face before the motor can hold that tq long enough for the dyno software to call it HP.

 

[jalewis]

I haven't ridden it but for probably 25 miles, but it pulls nicely. It's really smooth. He rode a stock one before he bought his, and says that it rides better than stock, but I can't make the same comparison.

 

[PR3VS56]

its da stock cams. they fall on their face before the motor can hold that tq long enough for the dyno software to call it HP.

That seems an easy enough fix. Cams, air, pipes, tune = 115+ hp/tq?

 

[skyhook]

115 tq is not uncommon...115 hp is a lot harder to get on these new 6 speed bikes...the heads will require considerable work...most of the top head porters do not like the cvo 110 heads, so I replaced mine with ported 96" heads, including 1.94/1.63 valves and high velocity ports...and the 96" heads have more of the important squish area

not saying everyone needs to do this, just pointing out the limitations of the stock 110 heads

 

[PR3VS56]

115 tq is not uncommon...115 hp is a lot harder to get on these new 6 speed bikes...the heads will require considerable work...most of the top head porters do not like the cvo 110 heads, so I replaced mine with ported 96" heads, including 1.94/1.63 valves and high velocity ports...and the 96" heads have more of the important squish area

not saying everyone needs to do this, just pointing out the limitations of the stock 110 heads

That explains the chronic low hp#'s for these engines. Thanks.

And you're turning out.....?

 

[skyhook]

115hp/115tq sae 5th gear on a dj250...honest numbers no tricks!

the big throttle body, injectors, and a few more discs in the muffler gained me 11 hp (it was 104hp before)

 

[thedriver]

It's The Cams

don't the CVO bikes come with the SE255 cams ?? from what i understand thats why the low HP #s , but high TQ #s under 4K. GREAT FOR TOURING. it's how the cam works in any engine ( set up right ).check out dyno sections on forums. thats why i'm changing to them myself on my 103, but keeping the CR down at 9.6:1. BIG HP does me no good @ 5500, if i'm never over 4000. i would rather have a ton of TQ where i'm riding and shifting at. i think i'm going to be pleasantly surprised when it's all together and tuned, for my purposes. i don't know how they run those on the CVO's at 10.0:1 CR with the 25* intake close and not have a tuning problem, or a PING monster. i'm not a CVO guy , hope you all don't mind me chiming in. JMHO

 

[arealinvestor]

don't the CVO bikes come with the SE255 cams ?? from what i understand thats why the low HP #s , but high TQ #s under 4K. GREAT FOR TOURING. it's how the cam works in any engine ( set up right ).check out dyno sections on forums. thats why i'm changing to them myself on my 103, but keeping the CR down at 9.6:1. BIG HP does me no good @ 5500, if i'm never over 4000. i would rather have a ton of TQ where i'm riding and shifting at. i think i'm going to be pleasantly surprised when it's all together and tuned, for my purposes. i don't know how they run those on the CVO's at 10.0:1 CR with the 25* intake close and not have a tuning problem, or a PING monster. i'm not a CVO guy , hope you all don't mind me chiming in. JMHO

The SE 255 with the 25 intake close quit way to early!!! You will be lucky if the cam pulls past 4500 rpm;But if thats your preference then go for it.You better hope your in the right gear when out in highway traffic & you need to suddenly accerlerate.

 

[thedriver]

Yes , they do quit pretty early, thanks, but i've been riding for many years, if i need over 4500 RPM with 103 ci. to get up to speed in any gear with all the TQ under 4.5K, I better put my wife on the front and me on the back just hangin on behind her. :spank: :hystria: i'm lookin forward to the good results, for touring.

 

[skyhook]

4000 rpm in 5th gear on an '07 and later bike has to be 80 to 85 mph....how fast do you need to go?

 

[strokerjlk]

4000 rpm in 5th gear on an '07 and later bike has to be 80 to 85 mph....how fast do you need to go?

@gree:
3500rpm in 5 th gear =81 mph
4328 rpm in 5 th gear =100mph
3678 rpm in 6 th gear=100mph

 

[Hillside]

huh?...add cams, headwork, throttle body, injectors, exhaust and 125hp is VERY possible...that is with the right kit...it could be done with screamin' eagle parts if you know which ones to pick...110" is a big motor, there's nothing wrong with it once you get rid of the tree-hugger engineering

I do agree with your stage 1 and dyno tuned numbers, just not with the "split cases for anything more"

Just completed a 110" with Wood 8 cams, our heads, Rhinehart 2/1, 55 HPI.
We CANNOT tune EFI here. Carbs only. We spooled it up, and clicked off 115.1 hp and 119.8 ft/lbs, totally untuned!! (it is going to the tuner after 5th of January.)
I would expect a 10% increase, just as we would see, if in fact it was a carbed build.
Scott