well if anyone is interested after reading a post here, i went to my local homey depot and spent the $30 for the kriptonite 5/8 6 foot cable lock. nice lock. so today i happened to be at the local wall fart lo and behold they to have the same type lock. by brinks for $20. looked the same to me. or if you want the h d logo i guess you could spend the $50 at the dealer. just my .02