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Just running the coolant through the frame is an innovation. You might want to patent this idea. Yeah its cool everything you do is cool.

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Thanks but I'm pretty certain someone has done something like that before. Bourgets has been using frames to store oil for a long time. The ones I've seen in pics use extra pipes to do it. I just want the look to be very minimalistic and clean. Those big hoses and extra pipes are kinda an eye sore. Figured this would allow for very short braided type hoses. I have to find a steel radiator neck and weld it on the top as its going to be the highest spot in the water system. Figure I can get a cylindrical overflow tank to go on the center down tube somewhere the system is gonna need some expansion room.
 

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So running into some legality issues. I have been search for NY motorcycle inspection info and ran across what could be some snags. First rules say all motorcycles must have front brakes however the dual axles will allow for 4 wheel disk brakes and should be ridiculously adequate given the approximate weight and four huge rear tires. NY tends to be the land of no in regard to rules..I can add front brake but at its weight it would be pretty useless. No big deal on that one I guess. Next up would be because it has four wheels plus one up front it may have a registration issue of being categorized as a car..now would require seat belts and get this...air bags..lol. emissions I belive get a pass on as if its home built it doesn't need to meet federal emissions standards as a one off special construction and not built by a manufacturer. I don't have any info from DMV on this as they oddly offer none and there is no number for the inspection/investigation dept. If build it with the rear axle as a drop axle does that fix the problem? I could lose the rear axle but I love the dual look... Was planning on air bag springs on the rear axle anyway so I could controll the traction on the front axle. If I blow the bag pressure the front would have max traction if it wants to lift the front wheel that can be controlled buy adding pressure. It'll be heavy and powerful enough to pull a trailer and with the rear axle being as far back as possible itll controll the weight with no problem. This way if one of the crew breaks down on a long run we have a tow vehicle just grab a trailer from a home depot..why not, could easily carry two bikes on a trailer at its size. Also want to run saddle tanks on each side like 9.5gal each almost 20 gallons of fuel on board would give it some pretty serious range.
 

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Have you done a weight estimate yet?
I'd say realistically 2200 -2300lbs with the cab
Because I'm running a firewall and dashboard design and not straddling motor it's gotten bigger then add 8 ft of cab. Its gonna be as long as a suburban complete.
 

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Came up with i think is a pretty nice design for the front of the frame. It'll protect it from any road debris from getting near the front pulleys and belts. Adds a cool look to the front. Not a big fan of the motor hanging out the front all exposed like I see on allot of other V8 trikes. 1" x 1/4 flat bar and sheeted out on the outside corners. One big a$$ chin spoiler lookin thingy. Having the whole bike start out with just a motor looks like to much to fast. This kinda introduces the front of the bike. Little more flow to it. Gotta little left to finish on it
 

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Well finally got at least some answers...got a hold of NYSDMV special construction unit. Apparently anything with more than three wheels cannot be registered as a motorcycle or trike. Rules state all wheels require brakes so having four wheel disc does not eliminate the front wheel brake requirement even though it won't really do much. So it will need to be registered as a passenger vehicle. Two huge bonuses to that are i will only have to renew registration every two years and.....NO HELMET! Would only require goggles cause it isn't a bike or trike. That is a huge plus! However insurance would be year round cant do just seasonal. But I fucking hate a helmet..seat belts also required but just lap belts. No air bags as I don't have to comply with federal manufacturer standards.
 

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You can go minimalist lap belts or maybe I would go with like some white Simpson 4-point race harness.
Totally over the top, like the trike.
 

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Yes laptop belts are adequate as again i don't have to meet federal requirements.
 

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Need to paint it to look like shark jaws.

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Need to paint it to look like shark jaws.

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I was thinking of powder coating the frame when done. Paint is cool but scratching and chipping is a pain. I don't want it too loud as I'm probably going to keep it a dark looking build overall. I still want to go metalflake on the cab but i think either prismatic black flake not too heavy on the prismatic or black with a purple color shift flake.. the color shift would look black but in the sun has purple flake in it. The flake is clear until it lights up so it'll look very black in the shade. The prismatic has some visible flake in it. But for the frame I found a two step prismatic powder I like called "dragons blood". Just enough pop in the sun but wild look too it. Still pondering colors for the build
 

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Got back to the project today. Made the structural firewall about 3" behind the engine block. This 2x2 sqare tube frame will catch the top frame tubes going to the neck and box out the engine section. At a lower height the transmission tunnel will atatch to this frame and act as the structural link to the rear section as well as the floor beams. This will stiffen the entire frame. The thinner square tube is framing out the dash. This design allows the driver to be completely behind the firewall and on
a bench seat with the driver sitting center straddling the trans tunnel. I think im gonna make it high enough to sink the shifter into it flush mount style in the top center. Gas pedal on right side brake on the left side of the tunnel. The gages will be above this structure in a carved top that will bolt down to this structure. Next round of steel going in will make more sense of what's here. The cab will 42" wide. It starts getting wider tapering out from the fire wall back.
 

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Firewall and dashboard similar to this. Mine has to be a tad higher and structural to catch the upper frame tubes going forward. The tubes that make the trans tunnel will be structural as well. Obviously I don't have a car chassis so it will addapted to work for this frame. The pic may help show where this is heading
 

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I like the purple one over the red one, because of less drag and the red ones style is dated IMO.

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I like the purple one over the red one, because of less drag and the red ones style is dated IMO.

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I agree the purple one is pretty slick. Im pulling different ideas from several I've found then making it work with my design frame
 

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Loving this build more than the last one. That dragon blood is pretty awesome in person with the sun on it.....shot it many times!


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