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Perhaps you don't have to read the whole ,but just enoughThe Clintons' Chop Suey Connection
By R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr.
Published 9/6/2007 12:08:05 AM
WASHINGTON -- I hope you followed the news with the utmost care last week. A stupendous story peeked into the media, grew to adulthood in no time, and vanished.

The news story began with the Wall Street Journal's report that a major donor to the Clinton presidential campaign, Hong Kong-born Norman Hsu, appeared to have "bundled" vast amounts of money into donations to Democrats. Particularly blessed was the Clinton presidential campaign. One of Mr. Hsu's donors was the Paw family, the modest Chinese-American family of a California mail carrier whose annual salary is $45,000, but whose family has donated $244,000 to the Democrats since 2004 -- $55,000 of which went to the Clinton campaign. So prominent has Mr. Hsu been among Clinton donors that he has been anointed a "Hillraiser," a donor who has pledge at least $100,000 for the Clinton cause. The Journal reports that Democratic sources claim his donations to the Clintons amount to "well over $1 million."

The story gets better. Mr. Hsu's sudden notoriety alerted officials in California that he is a convicted felon who has been on the lam since 1992. That news broke late in the week when Mr. Hsu turned himself in and posted $2 million for bail. Then over the weekend the story died. Then this week Mr. Hsu failed to show up for his bail hearing.

I suppose this is what the Clintons call "old news." Asian money from shadowy figures has figured in Clinton campaigns going back to at least 1986. Writing in The American Spectator even prior to the Clinton campaign finance scandals of the mid-1990s, James Ring Adams followed the Riady family, an Indonesian family of Chinese ancestry then prominent among Clinton supporters and White House guests, back to Arkansas in 1986 where the Riadys played their eleemosynary role in Governor Clinton's reelection. In the autumn of 1992 the family illegally pumped as much as $1 million into Clinton's presidential campaign and in 2001 paid an $8.6 million fine for its indiscretions. In that settlement it admitted to 86 misdemeanor charges of making illegal foreign campaign contributions from 1988 to 1994. The Clintons dismiss The American Spectator as part of the "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy," though we have never been wrong when we made their "old news" new news.

In 1998, the Senate Government Affairs Committee report on the Clintons' 1996 fundraising scandal claimed "strong circumstantial evidence" that the Riadys may have illegally funneled money into the 1996 campaign. Whether they did or not, that 1996 campaign abounded with dubious Asian donors many of whom paid hefty fines for illegal contributions. Former Democratic National Committee finance chair, John Huang, pleaded guilty to felony campaign finance violations after the Justice Department estimated that he arranged for some $156,000 in illegal contributions to his party. Just to be safe, the party returned more than $1 million. Pauline Kanchanalak, a Thai businesswoman, admitted to making $690,000 in illegal contributions to the Democrats, $457,000 after a June 18, 1996 coffee at the White House with President Clinton. Charlie Trie, a former fry cook from Little Rock, was convicted of federal campaign finance violations after he donated nearly $300,000 to the Democrats in the mid-1990s and personally delivered at least $640,000 in questionable checks and money orders to the Clintons' legal defense. Taiwan-born Maria Hsia, a friend of Al Gore's since 1988, was convicted of arranging more than $100,000 of illegal donations to the Democratic Party during the 1996 presidential cycle from a Buddhist temple.

Yet there is more. Johnny Chung pleaded guilty to numerous felonies committed during that race. He donated $366,000 to the Democratic National Committee, $35,000 of which he admitted came from Lt. Col. Liu Chaoying of the People's Liberation Army. Chung in May 1999 told the U.S. House of Representatives that Liu introduced him to Gen. Ji Shengde, head of Chinese military intelligence, who told him, Chung testified, that: "We like your president very much. We would like to see him reelect [sic] I will give you 300,000 U.S. dollars. You can give it to the president and the Democratic Party."

Perhaps one of the reasons the Clintons can dismiss so many of the scandals in their wake as "old stories" is that the Clintons are what law enforcement officials call "repeat offenders." But I am perplexed as to why the mainstream media do not catch on. In the Hsu stories the press reported that he is a "textile executive." From what my reporters have been able to discover his textile concerns have no offices and no legitimate addresses. Philip Klein found that one of Mr. Hsu's addresses for his campaign finance filings is the site of the Mid-Manhattan Public Library. Put another way, this major Democratic donor seems to have had no visible means of support. Now he is a missing person.


R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr. is founder and editor in chief of The American Spectator, a contributing editor to the New York Sun, and an adjunct fellow at the Hudson Institute. His The Clinton Crack-Up: The Boy President's Life
 

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The Clinton's only motivation is to line their pockets. At least Bush has a vision he believes is to benefit the country. He isn't seemingly in there for the cash. Hillary was pillaging the Whitehouse for furniture and furnishings as she moved out. Can you imagine a lawyer who doesn't even know what furniture he/she purchased? And we would elect someone like that? I don't think so. Id like that to surface to public view again.
 

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geoffreyt said:
The Clinton's only motivation is to line their pockets. At least Bush has a vision he believes is to benefit the country. He isn't seemingly in there for the cash. Hillary was pillaging the Whitehouse for furniture and furnishings as she moved out. Can you imagine a lawyer who doesn't even know what furniture he/she purchased? And we would elect someone like that? I don't think so. Id like that to surface to public view again.
This is my point. The main stream ignores the campaign donations as well as

the pillaging of the White House. It was disgraceful,yet no one except conservitive talk radio gave it the attention it deserved.

The main stream use to raise hell when Reagan was given money for a speech.

Bill Clinton has made many more millions than Reagan ever did, they will always give Clinton high praise for his crimes and misdemeanors.

Now they continue to put Hillarys misdeeds under the carpet.
 

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you're right. Republicans have never come by money dishonestly. Everything they do is open and above board. They are God's favorite political party (He is honorary co-chairman). Why can't the rest of America see that?
 

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it's all the same, on both sides
 

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it's all the same, on both sides
You could have said that in: blahblahblah...and Casaba is right...but there are those here that thrive on the divisive drivel handed out by both parties...they and those that choose to play along are simply playing into the hands of those you would depose in this government...as long as we are divided we won't be able to effect change! Change where a single party is in control is unacceptable too...we must have checks and balances...
 

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geoffreyt said:
The Clinton's only motivation is to line their pockets. At least Bush has a vision he believes is to benefit the country. He isn't seemingly in there for the cash. <snip>
You're kidding right??

Have you any idea who <*cough - Saudis*> bailed Georgie out of most all his business misfortunes throughout his life? Where most of the investor money came from for the majority of his families' businesses/bailouts since before his dad was pres?

Course there's no conflict of interest there huh??
A full 20% of the 9/11 terrorists weren't Saudis eh??

Dems or Reps alike - They're all big money whores.
I believe all the party liners are dirty/money grubbing/bought.
 

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My comment is on Bush's role as President. At any rate, maybe you can point to Bush's business failures for us to read about. Just a couple of links please.
Don't mind if I do....

Pages 2 & 4 of "Who is George W. Bush? Basic Facts"
http://austin.about.com/cs/bushbiographies/a/bush_background_2.htm
http://austin.about.com/cs/bushbiographies/a/bush_background_4.htm

Here's a short version: Bush built success on Harken sale
http://www.sptimes.com/2002/07/21/Worldandnation/Bush_built_success_on.shtml

His bio in business seems to only take a couple paragraphs: Bush Name Helps Fuel Oil Dealings
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/bush073099.htm

This link is just wild: Bush Jr.'s Skeleton Closet
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm

This read is just for fun!!!
http://www.whitehouse.org/administration/georgew.asp
 

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but don't mention that his brother Neal of Silverado Savings and Loan in Colorado was one of the architects of the great S&L crash of the 80's.
 
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