Need more information. What are you running for a primary? What do you have for transmissions, ie 5 speed softail, 5 speed conversion, 4 speed ratchet or cow patty?? Are you using and electric start or just kick? What year are the transmission types, ie clutch cable and arm or cable and ball ramps or hydraulic?hardcase.45 said:Hey, does anyone know how to get a 5-speed into an old Santee 4-speed frame ? I've got both a 4-spd and 5-spd mount plates. do I need to drill some holes into the 5-spd plate to mount it or what ?