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Has anyone put the 255 cams into a 96 in motor with only an exhaust and air cleaner change (plus some kind of fuel management system). I would be interested in seeing a dyno run. If it hasn't been done by anyone do any of the experts have any ideas on how it will perform as far as low end torque compaired to the stock cams.
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Signing up ! .... OR I could rephrase:

If AC and Mufflers + Sert is used - and NOTHING else - what cam would give that TC96 more life ??
 

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Mike @ Latus Motors

Says NOTHING can beat the 255 cam from 1500 to 3500, NOTHING and he has built thousands of engines and has a hundred dyno combo's listed on his site.

He conceeds that after 3,500 the torque does flatten out quite a bit but on a Ultra consider how often do you really shift past 3,500 or past 4,000?
 

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Mike (at Latus) is right about all low-end torque available from the 255s in a stock build. Most '07- '08s with just a stage one (no cam) deliver in the mid 70s for HP and low 90s for torque (tuning with the SERT).



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Then - what to expect with ac, mufflers, sert and 255's in an otherwise stock tc96?
 

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I run Andrews 55 cams, Ness A/C, SERT, and a fatcat exhaust on my 96. Will sit beside a Vrod up to 100mph. Still have a 107 kit sitting in the shed, not really seeing the need to fit it right now, damn thing pulls like a train.
 

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A street port head tune

donk_316 said:
I'm waiting on some more input on this too.

Considering throwing a 255 into my 96" w/ V&H big rad / SEAC / V&H Fuelpak
Mike said:

103 kit, 255 cam, D and D fat cat with quiet baffle, and a GOOD SERT tune and Mike says the cam will hang in a bit longer say to 4,000 making like 110 torque. 110 x 4000 divide 5252 = 83 HP @ 4,000.

Really how often do most of us shift higher than 4,000 on a bagger? do the bore on your seasoned cylinders, buy some flat tops, sent the heads to bigboyz for a street port and you have a very reasonably priced modification and quite reliable.

In a 110 kit with mild porting, 255 cams, slip-on exhaust he is showing 116 torque and 104 HP.

With no head work he is showing 108 torque and 88 HP.

With the head work the torque curve shows 118 hanging in there to 4,000-4,500 but with stock heads the torque shows 108 but falling off pretty quickly from 3,500.

I'll post a link and take a look! Note the 100 torque @ 1500 rpm. :yes:

http://www.latus-harley-davidson.com/mbbs2/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=380&mid=5346#M5346

I'm betting a 103, with some bigboyz heads, a D and D quiet exhaust, Cometic gaskets, a 255 cam, and a VERY good SERT tune would give some impressive real world bagger running results. AND not a heck of a lot of money. As to reliability? What have you really done.
 

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Have you looked at the 258 HD cams.

I had the 37 andrews cams in my 07 wide glide. Very good cams, come in around 2400rpm's stay in till 6000 rpm's.
 

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WHAT ABOUT HEAT ON THE 255? Does the short overlap of 13 degrees and alow greater cyl head temps? Anybody have a suggestion. The gearing on the new 6 speeds begs for the power to be low as possible but going with an EPA friendly cam gets me worried about pinging in the summer.
 

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Grand Poobah said:
WHAT ABOUT HEAT ON THE 255? Does the short overlap of 13 degrees and alow greater cyl head temps? Anybody have a suggestion. The gearing on the new 6 speeds begs for the power to be low as possible but going with an EPA friendly cam gets me worried about pinging in the summer.
@gree: ! I rode a Se110 when the harley demos were here in Sept, the SE110 engine ran much hotter than the 96"ers I rode. I have also read that the published specs for the 255 cam are not accurate.
 

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Have you looked at the 258 HD cams.

I had the 37 andrews cams in my 07 wide glide. Very good cams, come in around 2400rpm's stay in till 6000 rpm's.
Dewey told me that the 37s work very well with the 96" motor as a bolt in (Steve has said the same).

Dewey, will be dynoing the 54 this weekend (hopefully), I'm anxious to see the results,

Dave
 

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With my 103 /255's /SERT/ SE slipons I'm pulling 111.27 lbs ft and 94.23 hp
100+ from 1800-4900 110+ from 2300-2900 no head work.

If you want low end and staying with an SE , it's a good choice.

If you'rr looking outside the Andrews TW 54 ( about the same lift and longer duration) or R&R 525 would be real good choices.
 

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I have an 08 bagger,,Reinhart exhaust,power commander,SE air filter,I am using the SE255 cams,,The dyno results are,,89 HP with 101 lbs of tork,,a 110 SE has a hard time passing me,,only at around 100mph,,,good mix
 

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With my 09 FLHR - 103 /255's /SEST/ Reinhardt slipons I'm pulling 105.14 lbs ft and 87.19 hp- no head work.

I absolutely love my low end torque, and i give the 255 a thumbs up. (You can see my post in the "Dyno" section of the forum.
 

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With my 09 FLHR - 103 /255's /SEST/ Reinhardt slipons I'm pulling 105.14 lbs ft and 87.19 hp- no head work.

I absolutely love my low end torque, and i give the 255 a thumbs up. (You can see my post in the "Dyno" section of the forum.
Do you have compression releases installed on your build? If not, any starting issues ? Thanks, Troop
 

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Doing cams is a good choice.
But !
Do more homework !
Don't git in a hurry.

Talk to some builders !
Listen and Learn.
And think about what you may do for a total package.

Right now you are just thinkin about cams.
You will be happy for a little while, then want some more to git the adreline flowing.

If you have a total build in mind you can do it in stages.
Don't worry about the numbers.
Look for a package that is gonna take you from point a to point b the fastest but keep the dependability in the motor.

So wait, take yer time and do a lot of homework.
Save yer money up.
Talk to the people that's going to be doing he work for you too.
You want a cam that is gonna pull good down low and not run out of power on top end as fast.
My buddy has some 204 cams and is lookin to change them already.
And do you want EPA cams ? Or Aftermarket cams!:woohoo:

Homework is a good thing.

See you have a 07 bike, the 1st thing I would do is put a Thundermax on it with Auto Tune.
Go to Youtube and watch the videos of Thundermax.
 

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Check out the GMR section for project sg. You will see this set up from stock to tuned with pipes) and then with the 255 cam tuned.
 
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