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I am sure this has been asked somewhere, but I don't know how recently...I may be in the market for an Ultra this coming spring or summer. When do the next year bikes usually appear (what is the earliest I might see an '07). I am curious if, or when, the details will be made public on the engine/tranny combination. I have heard rumors of a 6 speed trans as standard, and perhaps a stocker 95" power plant but don't know when that information will be confirmed.

I live in MN and would be willing to hold off on my spring purchase for a few months if the Motor Company is truly going to offer something different for '07, if not, I'll just look at buying an '06...

Sorry if I missed this elsewhere, I am new to the Forum and haven't quite figured it all out yet:dunno:
 

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They usually announce the new models in August. Changes are kept pretty secret, so everything you'll here is just speculation. The one thing I do know is that EPA emisions rules are getting tougher, so there might be more changes to address that. If it were me I'd buy an '06, you could find yourself waiting a long time for changes to occur, life is too short, enjoy the ride now.
 

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All information on new models/features are kept in a Mayonnaise jar hermetically sealed until the dealer meeting which usually starts around the 15th or so of July - Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

First shipments usually arrive at the dealers between the 20-24th of July.

All else is pure speculation................


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After enduring countless daily mispellings and misuse of common words like "there" and "here", I gotta give ya props for spelling "mayonnaise" correctly. You sir, have made my day.
 

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Get what you want NOW. Grab a leftover 05. As the years roll here the MOCO is moving forward to meet EPA and ensure their future, on the other hand we as buyers are loosing more.

O6 marked the year of the line in the sand, 02 sensors, smaller injectors, different shaped, smaller, chamber/head design, new six speed with normal
1st year production issues, a more aggressive engine management system or at least a leaner AFR that kicks it in faster, and EPA looming on the horizon to enforce the Clean Air Act.

How long before the plug into the bike and transmit your information to DMV as they do here in PA with our cars at inspection? And a note on that I have a PT Cruiser GT which is a turbo with an Auto Stick. I have a stage II turbo, Greddy Boost Controller, 3" CAT and Exhaust, adjustable waste gate, and an adjustable blow of valve, and can boost 20-22 LBS and make just shy of 300 HP. This is the same motor as the SRT-4 and those guys are getting close to 380 HP and I think someone has hit 400 HP out of these 4 cylinders.

My point is on a sniffer, plugged into the DMV, I pass every time no issues. So will my bike also? Will there be a DB meeter there too?


Rant over, I think........

Get on the bike you want now and forget about the future, you cant predict it, change it, but you can put your leg over your new scoot and contemplate it while you are grinning ear to ear..................

I have the bike I am going to die with so not an issue for me, something about my cold dead hands ....
 

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Thanks guys, good advice. I guess waiting around to see what may (or more likely may not) happen in the future isn't worth it. The EPA stuff really scares me. I remember reading "doomsday" scenarios in various magazines but I thought "Here in America? No way!" Boy do I sure feel naive now.

In MN, we used to have mandatory annual EPA inspections in the 7 county metro area including St. Paul and Minneapolis but they actually conducted a clean air study and found out that it really wasn't making any difference in the air quality, so they abolished it many years ago. Imagine that! Government actually learning that they are wasting tax payer's money on a worthless program, so they voluntarily choose to do away with it (too expensive to keep going).

I guess it is only a matter of time before we will see mandatory water cooling on bikes to reduce emissions. What a joke, how much "harmful emissions" can all the bikes put togeher across the U.S. really be puting out compared to everything else out there. Will it really make a difference to limit bikes? Doubt it, but it looks like we will be forced to find out....Sorry for the long rant!
 

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Retrax, I am faced with the same dilemna, planning on buying sometime summer of '07 just cause thats when the money I want will be there. Saving like crazy now and may have enough to get it a little sooner say spring of '07 or at least know I'm gonna have what I want to have when I walk in the door,feel secure enough about it, to go ahead and order it spring '07. Anyway when I was looking at summer of '07 I was thinking about maybe waiting till the '07's come out for just the same reasons as you. Now I have decided to just get it when I am ready and if I decide I want a 6 speed add it later. Havent done a lot of study on them but wouldnt be surprised if the Jims and Baker units are better than the factory units at this time anyway...although maybe HD's will be better in their second year of production. At anyrate decided its not worth making myself wait any longer than I have to in thinking that something might change that I would like better. I simply cannot imagine that anything could change that would make me say "Damn now I wish I didnt have to ride around on this crappy old '06 FLHTCUI". They are just to damn sweet of a ride now!
 

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Mispellings????

capn_buzzcut said:
After enduring countless daily mispellings and misuse of common words like "there" and "here", I gotta give ya props for spelling "mayonnaise" correctly. You sir, have made my day.
Goggle Tool Bar has 'spell check' on any document that's active....and capn, it says you misspelled, 'misspelling'. Hehehehe:D
 

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capn_buzzcut said:
"Goggle Tool Bar" huh? See what I mean? It's an epademic!!
Good catch, capn. That slid right by me. I'm guessing the misspelling here is a plant.?

The one that gets me is advise/advice. I'd like to advise (verb) some folks to seek advice (noun) on the use of these TWO words (some need TO check the dictionary on these words TOO).

OK, thanks, I feel better.

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LAF said:
How long before the plug into the bike and transmit your information to DMV as they do here in PA with our cars at inspection?
Not all of PA has the emission test. My family live in a county where it is not required.
 

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Retrax said:
IWhen do the next year bikes usually appear (what is the earliest I might see an '07). I am curious if, or when, the details will be made public on the engine/tranny combination.
Since this is my first Harley I don't know if it's the same every year but I purchased my bike on July 29th. I was actually in the dealer's sales office doing the paperwork on a leftover '05 RK Custom when the salesman told me they had just received their first shipment of '06 bikes that morning. To make a long story short I rode home on a '06 Street Glide.

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6-speed question

I'm not sure why everyone is so excited about a 6-speed tranny. The touring bikes that I have ridden, and I've owned 3 (03 FLTRI, 05 FLHTCUI & 06 FLTRI), with a stock engine or even with a stage II upgrade still didn't require a 6th gear. I had plenty of RPM's left while cruising down the highway at 70+. It seems to me that if I was in 6th gear and wanted to really juice it I'd have to shift down 2 gears. Am I missing something or is it the "it's new and different so I got to have it" mentallity? I'm not trying to bash or flame anyone. I just haven't been educated yet.:confused:
 

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well I'm not sure why I think or thought it would be a good idea to wait and see if a six speed came out or not. Yea I guess just something new, different would have to be why I was considering it. Since this will be my first Harley I dont have anything to compare it to like you do and it did seem like might make for better mileage maybe. At any rate its a moot point for me now as my deposit is allready put down on a '06 FLHTCUI custom colored (concord purple and aztec orange). ETA of sometime in April or May is best I can get from my dealer at this point, thats when the color is available. Dealer said 30 days or so before arrival they would let me know a better arrival date etc.
 

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I'm not sure why everyone is so excited about a 6-speed tranny. The touring bikes that I have ridden, and I've owned 3 (03 FLTRI, 05 FLHTCUI & 06 FLTRI), with a stock engine or even with a stage II upgrade still didn't require a 6th gear. I had plenty of RPM's left while cruising down the highway at 70+. It seems to me that if I was in 6th gear and wanted to really juice it I'd have to shift down 2 gears. Am I missing something or is it the "it's new and different so I got to have it" mentallity? I'm not trying to bash or flame anyone. I just haven't been educated yet.:confused:
If you go buy the Dyna's 6-speed gear ratio, you're not really gaining that much. :whatever: I think it's just like you said. Just the...I want more mentality. You know most people who buy bikes have no clue how they work. So it's a nice sales pitch to say the new bike has 6 gears over last years 5.
 

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It was my understanding that the sixth gear is a .86:1 final drive as opposed to a 1:1 fifth gear. This would be similar to having an overdive just like in a modern car. More efficiency at freeway speeds, lower cruising RPM's etc. For me it's not a matter of just having the latest and greatest new toy, but after talking to a few guys who were riding cross country, they really liked the sixth gear for long term highway driving (over a 500 RPM drop which may not sound like much but does actually make a difference when you are spending days at a time driving long distances). That was mainly my interest.
 

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6 speed

OK, I understand. The lower RPM's would give you better over all gas mileage for those 600+ mile days. I'm just wondering what kind of mileage difference you would see and would the savings eventually pay for the cost difference of a 6-speed vs 5 speed? Of course, with gas prices these days it won't take much will it????:roflback:
 
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