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Old 08-17-2017, 08:50 PM   #136 (permalink)
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I've wonder how long it will be before Polaris drops the Indian line, or if it will. I've only seen a hand full of Indians on the road around here.

Would it be a good move for HD to pick up the Injun line of bikes??
Enough haters of HD around to sell some Indians to those that can afford them. I Saw a 2017 Indian traded in at HD dealership two weeks ago. Indian sales are up 16% but that's not hard to do when you start at zero.
I made the mistake of buying a Polaris ATV in 2013. From day one it did not run right Of course Polaris basically said warranty does not cover that.
Son in law and a friend of his both have Polaris 4 wheeler's the bigger ones . Both have blown engines and are not that old.
Polaris seems to claim they were not meant for off road use.
Seems water and mud can enter intake. funny dealer already had a full parts list of what was need to rebuild it. Seems they seen it often.
Warranty issue was one of the major problems Victory had.
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Old 08-18-2017, 05:57 AM   #137 (permalink)
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Can't stand the looks of any Victory bikes. I do like their engine designs but the bikes themselves just dont tickle my fancy. I'd never buy a new bike it isn't something I've ever done or will do. I search for older ones with certain features that I like. Reason i have an 01 for the forged steel crank, bearings and tighter crank run out spec. Might not matter to some but to me it does . I wouldn't buy a used Victory either they just have no appeal to me in any way shape or form. A lot of Harley bashers yes but I do all of my own work so it's therapy and self gratification for me working on my ride. Harley has the look, feel and sound and suits me well. An older Indian would work as well but that's about it for my choice in bikes. I prefer old school kick start or earlier but as I get older creature comforts are nice. Anyway that's how I feel about the subject...

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Old 09-30-2017, 09:09 PM   #138 (permalink)
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Warranty issue was one of the major problems Victory had.
Victory/Polaris dealers were the major problem. Most did not want to be motorcycle dealers. They didn't know or care about road bikes or riders. The 2 big , long-time Polaris dealers I knew regarded the Victory line as one big money-losing pain in the ass. They also said they lost money on warranty work , so they tended to just tell customers their problems weren't covered and they had to pay.
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Old 10-01-2017, 07:21 AM   #139 (permalink)
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Went past a few Victory/Polaris/ we sell anything dealers on this last trip.
Signs say Make offer
Half price on new motorcycles
Make offer
We finance anyone
Motoly Fool is cranking out the HD hate spam as fast as they can. Hoping Indian recovers what they lost on Victory. Polaris still sucks.
Son inlaw and a friend have the same Polaris ATV side by sides. Both blown engines. Almost new. Polaris response. Don't go off road with them your fault. No warranty.
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Had some time to kill so I stopped in an Indian dealership. Was told they already sold more bikes in 2yrs than Polaris did in 10yrs.
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Old 12-24-2017, 02:35 PM   #141 (permalink)
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What is this Victory motorcycle I hear about . They are coming up for sale a lot. Are they some cool bike from years ago forced out of business, because they were to good .
Rumor is they are better than Harley or Indian combined.
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The boomer customer base are dying of old age and already have full garages. Ugly chopper-fad styling sold Victorys until the Recession smashed a lot of old guy toy budgets. Those same guys will be dead in a few years and pedestrians before then.

HD will survive but I'd love to see someone like John Bloor take it over. Bloor did an epic job rescuing Triumph from the dead while producing profitable sport bikes (Harley are congenitally incompetent at diversification and their failure list is long and distinguished) and legacy machine based on the 6T and Bonneville styling. The current marketroids piddling with electric bikes will IMO be early adopters just in time to get steamrollered by EV tech progress. Maybe they'll have speakers playing Panhead exhaust notes for the cosplayer market.
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The boomer customer base are dying of old age and already have full garages. Ugly chopper-fad styling sold Victorys until the Recession smashed a lot of old guy toy budgets. Those same guys will be dead in a few years and pedestrians before then.

HD will survive but I'd love to see someone like John Bloor take it over. Bloor did an epic job rescuing Triumph from the dead while producing profitable sport bikes (Harley are congenitally incompetent at diversification and their failure list is long and distinguished) and legacy machine based on the 6T and Bonneville styling. The current marketroids piddling with electric bikes will IMO be early adopters just in time to get steamrollered by EV tech progress. Maybe they'll have speakers playing Panhead exhaust notes for the cosplayer market.
Funny you mention Triumph. I've been considering/think'n about a Triumph Rocket. Only thing holding me back is lack of dealer network.
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Old 06-23-2018, 02:55 PM   #144 (permalink)
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Had some time to kill so I stopped in an Indian dealership. Was told they already sold more bikes in 2yrs than Polaris did in 10yrs.
I would seriously check those facts. Indian sales did go up . Not hard to go up from zero. But theyare not doing that great. Of course Motley fool wants you to think so. They have some major digging out to do.
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