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Old 06-12-2019, 09:06 AM   #106 (permalink)
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I came to the USA on a work visa, sponsored by my employer, it was not easy to get here nor is it cheap. Is it fair that some people just show up at the ports of entry and expect to be let in? No, but the system of entry could be so much less complicated.
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:48 AM   #107 (permalink)
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agree it could be less complicated for those that are sponsored and stricter for those that come in to take advantage of our system, hell our retired folks get less support from a gov it seems to me.

I once read that our Founding fathers Originally only paid Senators and Reps "Per Diem" amount while in SESSION, because the founding fathers knew if Congress ever were to be paid Salaries, The congress would no longer be for the people.

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Old 06-12-2019, 12:52 PM   #108 (permalink)
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well having come through the processes I would say the US government is vastly overwhelmed. they do not have the personal, nor the resources to deal with the hundreds of people from all over the world speaking different languages with all different types of documentation. It took me almost a year to get my documents in order, but even when I was being processed there were people in front of me with out any documentation, I remember thinking to myself that there is no way for them to deny someone, because they would not have a way to deal with them.
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Some countries such as Australia make sure each immigrant will be a benefit to the country. We are SO far from that. We don't even know who is coming into our country. That's why we need a wall.

EDIT: I also know how hard it is to become a citizen. Making it difficult is not a process. We need to decide who can come in and then allow citizenship of those we want.
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Old 06-13-2019, 06:35 AM   #111 (permalink)
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Some countries such as Australia make sure each immigrant will be a benefit to the country. We are SO far from that. We don't even know who is coming into our country. That's why we need a wall.

EDIT: I also know how hard it is to become a citizen. Making it difficult is not a process. We need to decide who can come in and then allow citizenship of those we want.
Keep in mind it's a lot harder to just "walk" into Australia. They don't need a fence.
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Old 06-13-2019, 10:27 AM   #112 (permalink)
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Some countries such as Australia make sure each immigrant will be a benefit to the country. We are SO far from that. We don't even know who is coming into our country. That's why we need a wall.

EDIT: I also know how hard it is to become a citizen. Making it difficult is not a process. We need to decide who can come in and then allow citizenship of those we want.
First off, I do not intend become a US citizen, I am a proud Israeli.

Second, I flew in, and was processed with a few hundred people that day. I would estimate that most of the people that I entered the US with did not have proper documentation because it was a very slow processes. yet at the point at which a decision would be made the individual is already in the country, you can not just tell them no.
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And there lies one of the problems. Most any other country you visit, if you do not have the proper documentation you do not enter. The US should be turning away those individuals that do not have the required documentation and approvals.
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And there lies one of the problems. Most any other country you visit, if you do not have the proper documentation you do not enter. The US should be turning away those individuals that do not have the required documentation and approvals.
In my experience the US was harder then almost any other country I have visited. the major difference was the large number of people trying to enter with only a few people being able to processes everyone. what other options exist for someone with out proper documents? I would imagine it would get very expensive even for the US.
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trying to get in a country without proper documents will pose a problem in any country no?
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And there lies one of the problems. Most any other country you visit, if you do not have the proper documentation you do not enter. The US should be turning away those individuals that do not have the required documentation and approvals.
In my experience the US was harder then almost any other country I have visited. the major difference was the large number of people trying to enter with only a few people being able to processes everyone. what other options exist for someone with out proper documents? I would imagine it would get very expensive even for the US.
So it's like if there was a toddler birthday party and there's like 50 toddlers to deal with and only 2 parents.

Side note, would love to see Isreal. Can it be enjoyed with that many rockets shot over at you guys? That pisses me off.
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trying to get in a country without proper documents will pose a problem in any country no?
most countries are not as developed as the US and the west. I have crossed borders in Africa and Asia with out knowing I did. some countries just wave you through, unless you are American it seems.
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I grew up knowing about Ellis Island, so what about today, where do they report legally to enter or is it at any airport now?
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