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Old 04-14-2019, 06:55 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Faster is not equal to more satisfying, at least not for me. I am not drag-racing or trying to tweak my lap times to save another 1/10 of a second.

My first exposure to the manu-matic was a Mustang GT I rented a few yrs ago. I was unimpressed with it and used it twice while having the car. Late last year I added a '16 Lexus GS350 to my fleet which has padle shifters on the wheel and can be shifted with the stick (still manu-matic BS). I am still not impressed.

On the other hand, I have a 1984 CJ-7 with an auto and I find that I like it better than the manual trans Jeeps I have driven in the past. This satisfaction came only after swapping the 6-cylinder to a 360V8. But the Jeep doesn't even hint at begin a high performance vehicle.
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Old 04-14-2019, 12:45 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I'm a year behind you and feel the same way. The Chevy dealer was across the street from my high school. I spent a few lunch hours 'test driving' 1970 models- Z/28s, SS Chevelles, etc. There were lots of 4 speeds involved.

I'm a GM, especially Chevrolet, lifer; but I've developed an appreciation for Chrysler's 50s and (especially) 60s designs.

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Days gone by never to return.... Sure glad I was around to see it..

These cars were all 3-6 years old in my late teens into my twenties, and were affordable to young people working in service ( another forgotten word) stations after school and on weekends.... I remember taking most of my paycheck each month to the speed shop.... I think that's why I keep everything stock today...…

Ahh, but for Friday and Saturday nights......LOL

A pic of my 69 six pack super bee from 1973.....
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Old 04-14-2019, 01:00 PM   #18 (permalink)
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THOSE were the days back then.....I owned TWO yes TWO '67 SS396 factory 4 speed Chevelle's....one of em a 375hp 396 in the early '70's.....both red....weird huh?

good lookin Coronet there duuude.
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Old 04-14-2019, 02:24 PM   #19 (permalink)
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well joe....i think you're just and old trucker that
can't shake your passion for pushin in a clutch pedal
and workin a stick....all good.
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Old 04-15-2019, 07:30 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Cool

I'll bet that even though it's automatic it will have the paddle shifters so they'll be no mead for a clutch.
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Old 04-15-2019, 08:32 AM   #21 (permalink)
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well joe....i think you're just and old trucker ....
I've called him a mother trucker a few times.

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Old 04-15-2019, 09:03 AM   #22 (permalink)
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If they took the capabilities of a modern automatic trans with staged lock up and 7 or more speeds and made a manual with the same capabilities, it would be like driving a three stick Kenwoody.

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.... it would be like driving a three stick Kenwoody.
I only drove a 2 stick and cursed the designer on a daily basis.

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I enjoyed the 5x4 and 6x4 Petes I drove a lifetime ago.
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Old 04-15-2019, 05:20 PM   #25 (permalink)
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THOSE were the days back then.....I owned TWO yes TWO '67 SS396 factory 4 speed Chevelle's....one of em a 375hp 396 in the early '70's.....both red....weird huh?

good lookin Coronet there duuude.
67 Chevelles, one of my favorites...

The Butterscotch super bee in the pic was sold in 74 ( not a good college car) for $700.. Person who bought it wrapped it around a telephone pole 30 days later and it was totaled... I saw the car disassembled at a wrecking yard.. Kinda sad... You don't want to know what a nice A12, 4-speed car is worth nowadays...…
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Days gone by never to return.... Sure glad I was around to see it..

These cars were all 3-6 years old in my late teens into my twenties, and were affordable to young people working in service ( another forgotten word) stations after school and on weekends.... I remember taking most of my paycheck each month to the speed shop.... I think that's why I keep everything stock today...

Ahh, but for Friday and Saturday nights......LOL

A pic of my 69 six pack super bee from 1973.....
Military bases in those days were gold mines of cheap fast cars. Cars I tried to buy but couldn't scrape up the money for include a $700 '65 SS396 4 speed Impala, an $800 '70 (I think) 4 speed W-30 Cutlas (with A/C), a $500 '68 Corvair with a 350 small block mid-engine kit in it.

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If they took the capabilities of a modern automatic trans with staged lock up and 7 or more speeds and made a manual with the same capabilities, it would be like driving a three stick Kenwoody.

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What the hell is this sorcery?
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They do it now with one stick and two switches.

Almost as bad as three sticks, but at least you can do it with one hand.


You get four plus a grany in the low range. Then in high range you get 4 more with high/low splits.
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High and a low on the right. Splitter on the left. And gear selector in the center. I think. On half of the split changes he's just in and out of the same gear.


Baddest manual gear stick I ever had was 1st forward with a gate to open, 2 straight back, 3 straight forward, 4 straight back. Reverse on another lever.

Worked good going up, down shifting was a little tricky as you had to set the gate to get into the lower two gears.
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:11 AM   #30 (permalink)
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The first driving job I got was in a cab over, 400 cummings with a 13 speed... 100 mph truck. Drove it like a sports car, hitting every gear up and down. The 13 speed gives you options. Chasing that "perfect shift" was fun for awhile.
Later, having learned to "use the engine", a simple 9 speed and a 350 worked just fine.
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