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Old 06-16-2010, 09:50 PM   #46 (permalink)
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They say it's alright and I was told be someone else that the high copper amount is due to the oil cooler.

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Old 06-17-2010, 01:08 AM   #47 (permalink)
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George needs to chime in on this one, you went to Oil Analyzers.
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Old 06-17-2010, 10:01 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Yes George, please chime in. Would like your thoughts.
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Old 06-19-2010, 01:57 PM   #49 (permalink)
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What does it all mean? They don't compare it to anything or say what range it should be in.

2009 FLHX 9,500 miles
8,500 on Amsoil 20w-50
HD aftermarket oil cooler.
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Corey,
The sample is good, especially for 8500 miles without an oil change on a new engine. Wear will always be the highest during the first 5 to 10 thousand miles on most engines. The copper most likely is coming from your oil cooler and your slightly elevated silcon level is most likely dirt entering through your air cleaner. Keep in mind that all these materials you are looking at grow along with the miles on the oil so if typical iron wear for 5,000 miles is 10 ppm and you have nearly 10,000 miles it would be at 20 so you are wearing at a normal rate. This also apply's to the dirt and copper. You mention that is shows no comparisons like some other labs. I believe they asked for more info in the comments section so they could give you some comparisons. Blackstone labs shows the normal wear to compare with, but if a person doesn't understand how to figure these universal averages based on mileage on the oil they are very mis-leading. Let me know if you have more questions. I see you are using Amsoil's original motorcycle version and not the newest product.
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Old 06-19-2010, 06:53 PM   #50 (permalink)
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George,

Thanks for all the info. That's very helpful. Your last sentence you say I'm using Amsoil original motorcycle version and not the newest product. I don't understand what you're saying. Please clarify.

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Thanks for all the info. That's very helpful. Your last sentence you say I'm using Amsoil original motorcycle version and not the newest product. I don't understand what you're saying. Please clarify.

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Corey, unless there was a misprint on your report it showed as the type of oil AMV which is the stock number for our older version not the MCV.
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I moved this to the Used Oil Analysis sticky.
Thanks for posting it cbtruckin.
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Old 06-20-2010, 09:06 AM   #53 (permalink)
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George,

I'm using the new "MCV" oil. Thanks for all the info. I've always trusted the syn oil just wanted to get a report to ease my mind about doing the extended drains. I hate having to change my oil before a 3-4k trip just because it's going to get to 5,000 miles on the trip. Being able to go 8-10k on oil change makes things so much easier.

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Sent my sample off today. I'll post results as soon as I get them.

This should be an interesting test. 5,600 miles in 3 weeks, 3500 or so with a passenger, lots of highway cruising, some stop-and-go traffic, a good thousand miles of high-rpm corner carving, and the rest was relaxed cruising. 4 days over 100 degrees, most of the rest over 90.
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Sent my sample off today. I'll post results as soon as I get them.

This should be an interesting test. 5,600 miles in 3 weeks, 3500 or so with a passenger, lots of highway cruising, some stop-and-go traffic, a good thousand miles of high-rpm corner carving, and the rest was relaxed cruising. 4 days over 100 degrees, most of the rest over 90.
Cool, yes it should be interesting.
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Here it is, for better or worse. My air filter was filthy, so I think that explains the silicon. No clue what's causing the viscosity rise though. I should be ready for another change in a few weeks, so we'll see what that one says. I'll drain that oil hot to see if it makes a difference.

Bottom line though is that as hot as this engine's run, the oil was fine.

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russ, that's pretty interesting stuff, I do really wonder about the viscosity
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Here it is, for better or worse. My air filter was filthy, so I think that explains the silicon. No clue what's causing the viscosity rise though. I should be ready for another change in a few weeks, so we'll see what that one says. I'll drain that oil hot to see if it makes a difference.

Bottom line though is that as hot as this engine's run, the oil was fine.

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This is a good sample as wear is way below what the universal averages are according to Blackstone. I suspect the viscosity increase is due to oxidation and nitration that this lab does not have the equipment to test for. Oxidation and nitration can be caused from fuel air mixture and if the filter was starting to be restrictive due to dirt this would affect the air fuel mixture and drive up viscosity or it could be computer generated if your bike is fuel injected. You put the oil through the test and it was still protecting very well. I am also concerned with how high the zinc was since it was slightly higher than when it came out of the bottle. Since Blackstone is not a certified lab I wonder when the last time their test equipment was calibrated. Let me know if you have further questions.
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Old 07-21-2010, 10:13 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Here it is, for better or worse. My air filter was filthy, so I think that explains the silicon. No clue what's causing the viscosity rise though. I should be ready for another change in a few weeks, so we'll see what that one says. I'll drain that oil hot to see if it makes a difference.

Bottom line though is that as hot as this engine's run, the oil was fine.
Cool thanks for posting. Silicon can come out of the engine casting or if you're using a K&N it's been proven they will pass the tiny silicon particles.
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