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Old 04-26-2003, 12:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lightbulb Longest Lasting Tire Review

Lotsa talk about tires. Let's put the facts to it, to see if one tire consistently lasts longer than another.
1) Describe your bike (i.e. '01Heritage, '02 Fatboy, '03 Road King).
2) Type of riding (i.e. 1 or 2 up)
3) Area of the country you ride most in (i.e. Southeast, Midwest)
4) Do you ride mostly 2 lane, Interstate, or combination.
5) State the tire(s) you used, air pressure run, and the milage you got.

I've got an '02 Heritage, 1 up riding in the Southeast and ride combination.

Front tire is original Dunlop D402F, 36psi, still running @ 16,200 miles with 3.5/32" tread still on tire. Original tread depth was 5/32"

Rear tire - original Dunlop D402R, 36 psi, replaced at 8,400 miles with...
Dunlop K491 Elite II. Looks like I'm going to get pretty close to the same milage as the original D402R

I think I'm going to try Avon Venom X next
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Old 04-26-2003, 05:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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1) rk
2) solo
3) tried 36 to 40 on different tires presently trying 42
4) 2 lane in southeast
5)dunlops 402
6) 235 lbs
7)always around 8k
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Old 04-26-2003, 07:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I like your adding #6. Good thinking woodwalker. I'm 185 lbs.
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Old 04-26-2003, 10:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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1. rk, 02
2. 70% 2 up
3. 36 fr/rear SoCal
4. 2 and 4 lane, interstate
5. Dunlop 402. 10,500 and 12,500 on rear. 23,000 on front.
6. 190, SO weighs 110.
Just changed to metzler 880s.
Was noticing front "sensitivity" in the front. New front tire much much better. Not sure if due to change of tire, or change of brand, or both.
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Old 04-27-2003, 06:34 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks GB. Your out running me 25 - 50%. What do you think the additional 2000 miles on your second tire was attributed to? Keep us posted on the Metzelers.
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Old 04-27-2003, 07:21 AM   #6 (permalink)
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1.1990 FLHTC 2.85% 1 up 3. Midwest 4. Mostly 2 lane 5. Dunlop 402's 36-front 40-rear 10-12,000 for the rear, 20-25,000 out of a front. 6. 220 lbs. 7. I check my tires 2-3 times a month. flhman
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Old 04-27-2003, 07:39 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Man you guys are making me look bad. Thanks flhman. I see a pattern developing already. C'mon the rest of you viewers, give us your 2 cents worth. Let's find the longest lasting tires.
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Old 04-27-2003, 08:07 AM   #8 (permalink)
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1. 99 FLHT
2. 60 % 2 up, 60% pulling N-Line trailer
3. South 70%, anywhere in the country 30%
4. 70% 2 lane
5. Dunlop 402F, 30,000 on 1st, 35,000 on second, 38 PSI
Dunlop 402R, 11,000 on 1st, 40 PSI
Dunlop 491R, 13,000 to 15,000 on these, 40 PSI
tire pressure checked weekly
6. 220 lbs, SO 140 lbs

In addition to longest lasting, I firmly believe you need to consider the tires ability to handle loss of air, ie, going flat while riding.
Who has experienced a flat tire while running at speed and what happened? What brand of tire?

I've experienced 3 flats while riding, 2 rear and 1 front (all with either Dunlop 401, 402 or 491), all caused by nails of some type. Bike will feel mushy and steering is loose, slight swerving. Nothing dangerous and was able to slow down, pull off and stop. Also was able to ride 3-4 miles on a flat tire to get to next exit or back to campground. I've also seen the Dunlops tested at Talladega NASCAR track on Harleys with high speed induced flats and very little loss of control. I will not switch from Dunlops to something until I'm sure the other brand will do the same thing. I'm not saying Metzlers or whatever won't do the same thing but I have NO firsthand knowledge of that.
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flats i have had since moving to harleys ,,2 ,, nails ,,1 pinched tube ,,( always stayed with dunlops ) little wobbly like hitting grooved pavement and able to slow very quickly since no air ,,, accompanied by a deep sickening sinking feeling
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Old 04-27-2003, 08:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Lotsa people with lots of ideas. That's what makes this forum so helpful. Good point Ed Y. Doesn't matter how long a tire lasts if it's 'your last'. Thanks for a thought provoking response.
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00 RKC, still have the original front on it with 35k. Looks like it will go another 3k or so. 36 on air. 50-50 on one-up,two-up. Get about 12k out of a back 402 with 40 on air.
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When I just changed my front w/ 23k, it looked like it would go another 10-15k. I wanted to change to blackwall, and wanted to try metzlers, so changed both. Rear was shot at 12.5, same mileage as 1st tire, i just rode it further.

Ed Y, info on flats is interesting. Were these tests w/ tubeless or with tubes (i.e.laced wheels) ?..

I had a flat on the rear of my Dyna going 80 or so maybe 6 years ago with a laced wheel. Bike was slewing back and forth like crazy. Thought i was going down for sure. When i finally stopped, tire was half off the rim. Sold the bike, never felt comfortable on it after that.
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Old 04-27-2003, 10:31 PM   #13 (permalink)
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As near as I can remember the tests were with tubeless rims. Harley used to have an open house once a year at their test facility at Talladega. That's when I saw the tests done. Don't think they have the open house there anymore but I think the road test facility is still going..
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Generally speaking if you have a flat with a tube tire it's a blowout, instant flat! Tubeless tires usually will go down gradually, you get that mushy feeling Ed was talking about and have a little more time to react. Where a tubeless radial will blow is if you run too low air pressure. That makes the sidewall flex more which increase the heat generated, next thing you know your doing a 360 in your Explorer I'm not sure how a tubeless bias tire reacts to low pressure but I think it's the same.
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1. FXSTS, 98
2. 1 up
3. North Carolina Piedmont (mostly flat with lots of potholes)
4. 2 and 4 lane, interstate
5. Dunlop 402s (I think) 38 psi each. 14,000 on rear. 14,000 on front. (could have went alot longer on front but I changed them at the same time.
6. 160 lbs
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