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11-05-2012, 07:01 PM
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Auto Cancel Turn signal problem
The auto cancel feature of the turn signals has stopped working on my 2002 Road King Classic. Everything else seems to work properly.
The signals do not turn off after a turn like they used to do.
Anyone care to elaborate as to where the problem is. On my V-ROd it points to the HFSM as being bad. Don't know enough about the RK's electrical to hazard a guess.
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2002 Road King Classic w. 103" Stroker
2007 VRSCX 0461 / 1400
2003 VRSCA (Gone but not forgotten)
Last edited by RustyG; 11-06-2012 at 06:24 PM.
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11-05-2012, 08:27 PM
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IronButt
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You're going to have to bone up on your electrical ability. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say you should start looking at your TSM (or TSSM if you have factory security) or a bank angle sensor.
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11-05-2012, 08:59 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Dec 2010
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It's probably out of fluid.
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11-06-2012, 08:00 AM
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Poser
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Is your speedometer still working?
The module needs to sense an increase in speed to turn off.
rkc
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11-06-2012, 11:19 AM
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IronButt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Road King Cole
Is your speedometer still working?
The module needs to sense an increase in speed to turn off.
rkc
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I agree. Check your speed sensor. You may have to clean the magnetized pieces of metal stuck to it. It is accessible on top of the tranny on Softails. I assume it's probably similar on a RK. About $60 or so to replace if necessary.
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11-06-2012, 06:25 PM
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Speedo works just fine.
Speedfoos the blinker fluid was replaced 5K miles ago at the last service interval.
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John
2002 Road King Classic w. 103" Stroker
2007 VRSCX 0461 / 1400
2003 VRSCA (Gone but not forgotten)
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11-06-2012, 06:34 PM
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IronButt
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Based on the info provided and symtoms it is likely you have a TSSM issue.
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11-07-2012, 09:10 AM
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Poser
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Quote:
Originally Posted by road_king
Based on the info provided and symtoms it is likely you have a TSSM issue.
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(unless of course the wire or connection is bad to the TSSM. I think the wire was orange\white on mine.)
Albeit we didn't hear if the blinker fluid was dino or synthetic. You know synthetic blinker fluid is too slippery.
and if you have the security feature, it may be an expensive fix... Myself I never liked\trusted the auto turn off so I disconnected the speed sensor and turn them off manually.
rkc
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"enjoy every sandwich" - W Zevon
2001 FLHR (carb) w 95" 26g cam and a head job.
Corbin Classic Solo
V&H Big Shot Duals w "Quiet" Baffles
16" Wild 1 chubby's
TWR stabilizer
Last edited by Road King Cole; 11-07-2012 at 09:13 AM.
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11-07-2012, 01:41 PM
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IronButt
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You have to run the RED Blinker fluid. The green is crap..
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11-07-2012, 02:30 PM
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IronButt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RustyG
Speedo works just fine.
Speedfoos the blinker fluid was replaced 5K miles ago at the last service interval.
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Have you ever seen it move erratically from zero to 120? When that happens it will sometime quit all together, and then go back to normal operation. I would again suggest you remove the speedo sensor, wipe it clean of metallic filings and reinstall it. You may get some more life out of it. I had to replace mine about 5 y/o on my 2002 Deuce.
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11-07-2012, 02:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fourhour
Have you ever seen it move erratically from zero to 120? When that happens it will sometime quit all together, and then go back to normal operation. I would again suggest you remove the speedo sensor, wipe it clean of metallic filings and reinstall it. You may get some more life out of it. I had to replace mine about 5 y/o on my 2002 Deuce.
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I also had to replace mine a few years back too. Cleaning didn't help. I remember it wasn't expensive and not that hard to do. Perhaps that is a cheaper thing to try before buying a new TSSM module...
rkc
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"enjoy every sandwich" - W Zevon
2001 FLHR (carb) w 95" 26g cam and a head job.
Corbin Classic Solo
V&H Big Shot Duals w "Quiet" Baffles
16" Wild 1 chubby's
TWR stabilizer
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11-07-2012, 06:20 PM
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Have no other problems. Just the automatic cancel does not work. I will clean out the speed sensor though as a precaution and see what happens.
Manual says the auto cancel happens after a 45° turn or 20 seconds at constant speed. The 20 seconds part works. The 45° turn does not. Even tried a 45° lean but no luck. Sounds to me that the BAS (Bank Angle Sensor) is not working or is stuck.
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Regards,
John
2002 Road King Classic w. 103" Stroker
2007 VRSCX 0461 / 1400
2003 VRSCA (Gone but not forgotten)
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11-08-2012, 07:26 PM
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IronButt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RustyG
Sounds to me that the BAS (Bank Angle Sensor) is not working or is stuck.
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fyi..the Bank Angle sensor is integrated in the TSM/TSSM on your 2002 RKC
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11-12-2012, 06:01 PM
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FNG :)
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i had the same problem. put on a new h-d tsm, cost me around 150.00. worked for about a week. i also did the speed sensor cleaning , until that quit working. replaced the sensor and that fixed my problem. got my sensor from jireh cycles for around 35.00 and about 10.00 to ship
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11-12-2012, 06:31 PM
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I think I will take the tssm off and drop it on the ground a few times. Maybe that will loosen things up. Hate to buy a new one. Pain in the Azz to replace a tssm.
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Regards,
John
2002 Road King Classic w. 103" Stroker
2007 VRSCX 0461 / 1400
2003 VRSCA (Gone but not forgotten)
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