Missouri retains Lid Law.

[ebiker]

Originally Posted by mgb939

I don't care about state helmet laws because I wear one all the time. I live in Nebraska where we have helmet laws and the states arguement is, especially head injuries, when the insurance runs out then they become wards of the state and often times can be expensive.

Yep, that's what we're being force fed by the Insurance crowd and the medical industry.

Check this link.... For leading causes of Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI)..........:

http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/tbi/Causes.htm

[airmann6]

I like my chances with a helmet a lot better , don't care if it doesn't look "tough" or "cool" .

[96FXD]

Originally Posted by airmann6

I like my chances with a helmet a lot better , don't care if it doesn't look "tough" or "cool" .

Same here, when it's cool.

[ebiker]

Originally Posted by 96FXD

Same here, when it's cool.

Road Rider magazine co-founder Roger Hull - 1924-1995, traveled worldwide on a HD. During his years as writer on motorcycle issues, Mr. Hull wrote:"Helmet use is a safety issue. Helmet law is Politics".

Since the Federal Highway act of 1966, the governments have used the helmet law issue as a means of people control, or "Feel Good" legislation, sort of a Political soccer ball being kicked from one party to another, from the Senate to the House to the Governor.

I see helmet law as a no cost half a$$ed attempt to provide motorcycle safety to the masses. To seasoned bikers it's no secret the Feds are totally clueless about effective motorcycle safety. Feds would like to gradually curtail motorcycles travel and to ultimately see bikers disappear from the roadways.

Just to inform you where I'm coming from, for over 40 years I wear a helmet and probably always will.

It's helmet law that I hate!

[route66paul]

Originally Posted by ebiker

Road Rider magazine co-founder Roger Hull - 1924-1995, traveled worldwide on a HD. During his years as writer on motorcycle issues, Mr. Hull wrote:"Helmet use is a safety issue. Helmet law is Politics".

Since the Federal Highway act of 1966, the governments have used the helmet law issue as a means of people control, or "Feel Good" legislation, sort of a Political soccer ball being kicked from one party to another, from the Senate to the House to the Governor.

I see helmet law as a no cost half a$$ed attempt to provide motorcycle safety to the masses. To seasoned bikers it's no secret the Feds are totally clueless about effective motorcycle safety. Feds would like to gradually curtail motorcycles travel and to ultimately see bikers disappear from the roadways.

Just to inform you where I'm coming from, for over 40 years I wear a helmet and probably always will.

It's helmet law that I hate!

Exactley! it is a law made so that police would just have 1 more reason to pull someone over. Helmet use is much safer, but even joggers fall and hit their heads. The law is very intrusive. like seat belt laws. There are circumstances where maybe they shouldn't be worn - many do limit side view and hearing for low speed electric bike or scooter/moped rides. Just like someone with a bad back getting hurt, just twisting to put the belt on.

Maybe we ought to make all resturants blend all the food so that the choking hazard is reduced. More laws just make people into scoflaws.

[airmann6]

Originally Posted by ebiker

Road Rider magazine co-founder Roger Hull - 1924-1995, traveled worldwide on a HD. During his years as writer on motorcycle issues, Mr. Hull wrote:"Helmet use is a safety issue. Helmet law is Politics".

Since the Federal Highway act of 1966, the governments have used the helmet law issue as a means of people control, or "Feel Good" legislation, sort of a Political soccer ball being kicked from one party to another, from the Senate to the House to the Governor.

I see helmet law as a no cost half a$$ed attempt to provide motorcycle safety to the masses. To seasoned bikers it's no secret the Feds are totally clueless about effective motorcycle safety. Feds would like to gradually curtail motorcycles travel and to ultimately see bikers disappear from the roadways.

Just to inform you where I'm coming from, for over 40 years I wear a helmet and probably always will.

It's helmet law that I hate!

Yikes , for a minute I thought you were gonna say helmets are a bad idea . I think some just wanna bitch no matter what the issue , right or wrong .

[ebiker]

Originally Posted by airmann6

Yikes , for a minute I thought you were gonna say helmets are a bad idea . I think some just wanna bitch no matter what the issue , right or wrong .

Yup, makes it easier for some people to just sit on their ass and do nothing. Politicians love that.

Now, if you're a good little boy, the Illinois legislature might let you carry a gun in public....

[airmann6]

Originally Posted by ebiker

Yup, makes it easier for some people to just sit on their ass and do nothing. Politicians love that.

Now, if you're a good little boy, the Illinois legislature might let you carry a gun in public....

No desire to carry a gun in public , if I did I would though . Sorry you're so down on the Gov. , could be a lot worse I think . I guess we all have the option to move somewhere else .

[96FXD]

I logged on to the VTF yesterday searching for an oil filter number I switched to on my last oil change when I came upon this thread in General Talk. After commenting on how I had been fined for a non-DOT lid I rode out on my Kawasaki (no oil in the HD) in search of an oil filter wearing a 3/4 lid (nice day not to hot). Riding East on 58 approaching 71 in stop and go traffic I pass the same trooper that ticketed me on Memorial weekend, I just glared at him and shook my head in disgust.
A coworker mentioned he had heard on a morning radio program a couple of weeks ago how troopers have been raising revenue with the lid law lately.
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[panatonyac]

Originally Posted by airmann6

Yikes , for a minute I thought you were gonna say helmets are a bad idea . I think some just wanna bitch no matter what the issue , right or wrong .

SO what after helmet laws are you ok with? How about your pipes have to have an EPA sticker or you get e $300.00 dollor fine? Ohh wait that's in Boston Mass.

What Next: only allowing bikes that are stock on the road.

I will tell you one thing, I grew up and learned to ride in NH and I felt a great deal more safe riding without a helmet there (and in all the states I have road in with out helmet laws) than I do with a helmet in Los Angeles!
All other drivers are more aware of bikes in non helmet states.

I will say on last thing here too, you will lose your rights as long as you choose to be silent. People do not bitch just for the sack of bitchin.
People who stand up for their freedoms are standing up for foolish folks like you who hide their heads in the sand!

[airmann6]

Originally Posted by panatonyac

SO what after helmet laws are you ok with? How about your pipes have to have an EPA sticker or you get e $300.00 dollor fine? Ohh wait that's in Boston Mass.

What Next: only allowing bikes that are stock on the road.

I will tell you one thing, I grew up and learned to ride in NH and I felt a great deal more safe riding without a helmet there (and in all the states I have road in with out helmet laws) than I do with a helmet in Los Angeles!
All other drivers are more aware of bikes in non helmet states.

I will say on last thing here too, you will lose your rights as long as you choose to be silent. People do not bitch just for the sack of bitchin.
People who stand up for their freedoms are standing up for foolish folks like you who hide their heads in the sand!

Safer without a helmet ? Maybe I'll figure that one out later . I'll fight for whats right as hard as anybody , I just don't think helmet laws are in that category . Me foolish , how rude , besides you're the one not wearing a helmet .

[Poseur]

You guys that ride without a real helmet are just proof of Darwin's theory of evolution.

[sanfam93]

Originally Posted by ebiker

It was back in 1983 and I attended a helmet law repeal public hearing at the state capitol in Harrisburg Pennsylvania. I believe it was before the Senate Transportation Committee.

After I read my prepared paper, a Committee member said:"We have to look out for you".

I replied:"With all due respect, where were you when I was shipped off to Korea and those men behind me in this room were shipped off to Vietnam?" "Why didn't you look out for us?"

I was escorted out of the room.

They gave you a helmet then too.

[sanfam93]

Originally Posted by sirbOOm

When did this country get to the stage where our government told us that we are unable to take care of our own safety and we are unable to understand and accept the risk of helmetless riding? When was it that Americans accepted their government being their mother and father? Well... it'll only get worse with socialized healthcare because the government foots the bill for your medical care... which means they get to tell you that you have to wear a helmet, full riding gear, and, hell if the technology was there, a force field around you. Please! Leave me alone. I'll wear a helmet if I want to... it is my life, not yours Uncle Sam.

So much for "America Love it or leave it" so tell us what do you like about it? lets just talks about Motorcycles in this fourm. we do have one for politics and religon here on the board.

[ebiker]

Originally Posted by sanfam93

They gave you a helmet then too.

"They" also gave me a loaded weapon to carry, usually an M1 Garand, an M1 carbine of a Colt .45ACP.

If "they" were to allow me today to always carry a loaded weapon in EACH state while I ride my bike, I would gladly wear any freakin' helmet they choose....