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SEDELUXE · 07-10-2008, 02:29 PM

i was one that knew what the goal was and i also knew Randy would not let ya down on this one. there is way too much on the table here if ya know what i mean.
way to go BB oh by the way i think the doofs have a ride coming your way if i hook up with them im going to come a lookin for ya man.

nc-renegade · 07-10-2008, 02:54 PM

What was the modification done to the oil pump?

KingofCubes · 07-11-2008, 08:09 AM

Body and gears deburred and lapped, gears dial indicated.

darktrainer · 07-13-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Booggerbe

Easy everyone, Yes it is a 98" ( BUT) as TxChop said . There is no part in the new 98" that has not been pampered and checked for the best in it. Randy and Tx, Bigman and a few others new what my goal was. It is to make the highest Dyno numers for a 98" that no one else will be able to touch. So far i no i have done this. Just got to get it to the Dyno if all you want to see what a real 98" motor can produce. Randy has done his job for me and R&R did there part. I no talk is cheap and Dynos are just numbers. As Randy stated, look at the time factor. Who can get there the quickest. I myself was with Bigman when he was putting a whipping on the 124" . I have heard some excuses but this guy had them all. I couldnt do alot with him myself for having a wore out tire. I would jump him as BigMan did from the hole shot ,but blow the rear tire and spin every shift. I could have built a monster motor but as i believe and the proff is in the pudding. While the big inch motor is there trying to gather his eggs and catch up. The 98" is gone and left the big motor to try and catch him. Another factor is the longetivity of the stroked motor. Again i believe the 98" will last longer and be more durable over time.I can tell already that this is going to be a Giant killer all ready. I can tell you that there is no comparisson to the RP/GMR motor and HyPerformance/R&R motor already.HyPerformance being the better. I put the 3:15 gearing back in for the breakin only and already whipped a ole rival twice the amount i use to. Just couldnt hold back and he kept on F------ with me. all i could tell him was . Yep its not even broke in yet. Dyno numbers are only that but the real ride is a excellent performing street, trip, drag, everyday motor that is dependable and fun i chose to ride the 98' . As Bigman said bring the big ole motors and lets see. Booggerbe

Dave Cote is living in Tenn. now, why not look him up and run against his 117" with 13.5:1 compression. Standard softail chassis, 150 rear tire. I am sure he would be happy to help settle the topic. Failing that, if you find yourself in Vegas with your bike I know a certain someone with a 124" and 200mm rear that will join you at LVMS to help figure this out.

ejk_dyna · 07-14-2008, 11:25 AM

<<Dave Cote is living in Tenn. now, why not look him up and run against his 117" with 13.5:1 compression. Standard softail chassis, 150 rear tire. I am sure he would be happy to help settle the topic.>>

I know that bike...and rider. A 98" (normally aspirated, non NOS) has no chance...no matter how strong it is.

Lot's of bad or mediocre big inch builds out there with lots of bad or mediocre riders. So a really stout 98" will whup them.

nighttrain67 · 07-25-2008, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by darktrainer

Dave Cote is living in Tenn. now, why not look him up and run against his 117" with 13.5:1 compression. Standard softail chassis, 150 rear tire. I am sure he would be happy to help settle the topic..

I don't have much for of anything for anybody right now...LOL As stated in another thread, my motor is apart once again waiting for yet another incarnation of a 117. Going to be bringing it down to earth and trying to have fun with it again. I agree with the above post.....there are a whole lot of half assed big inch setups out there that will get their clocks cleaned by a well set up and tuned 98 inch motor, but when compared to a bigger inch well set up motor....that is a whole different ballgame. And of course, the pilot has a little to do with it, as well.

KingofCubes · 07-25-2008, 10:20 AM

This is a picture of a recent trip to Akron for Founders day. These guys are my buddies from southern Cal. and they are getting ready to race the Hyperformance demo Bourget 113" with R&R billet heads against their 127" R&R ridgid with electric shift. The ridgid jack rabbited ahead of the 113" and then ran out of gearing and got ate on the top end.

darktrainer · 07-27-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofCubes

This is a picture of a recent trip to Akron for Founders day. These guys are my buddies from southern Cal. and they are getting ready to race the Hyperformance demo Bourget 113" with R&R billet heads against their 127" R&R ridgid with electric shift. The ridgid jack rabbited ahead of the 113" and then ran out of gearing and got ate on the top end.

So, your point is it is ok to compare apples and oranges? Compare two bikes with those drivelines, but with similar gearing.

ejk_dyna · 07-27-2008, 01:48 PM

Randy...cmon...you know that is not a good comparison.

You build a maxed out 98" R&R deal...with any required upgrades in drivetrain/chassis etc.

Now you build a maxed out 117" R&R deal...with any required upgrades in drivetrain/chassis etc.

Now you get a GOOD pilot and take both builds out to test performance. Stop light to stoplight, 1/4 mile, 5th gear roll-on, and any other condition you can dream-up.

PLEASE.....don't tell me that you think your 98" will beat your 117" in ANY possible perfromance test.

dog155 · 07-27-2008, 01:58 PM

The cubic inch war will never end.I will always go with the most cubic inches you can stuff between the rails any day of the week.Simply put!Big cubes makes it's power down where it should be for a street brawler.Of course there is nothing wrong with a bros wanting to run a peaky smaller cube motor.They too are a pure joy,if that's what floats your boat.

nighttrain67 · 07-27-2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Booggerbe

I put the 3:15 gearing back in for the breakin only and already whipped a ole rival twice the amount i use to. Just couldnt hold back and he kept on F------ with me. all i could tell him was . Yep its not even broke in yet.

I hate to burst your bubble, but if your racing the thing, chances are the rings are already seated and your motor is already broke in. 98 inchers are nice setups, but to call it a 124 killer is almost kind of comical with the setup you have listed. Is is a nice setup? You bet.....but is it a 124 killer? Not even close unless someone has one hell of an abortion 124.

oh1deuce · 07-27-2008, 02:14 PM

I'm sure the guy with the 127" expected to whoop the 113". The 113" is a softail Evo. It has a ton of torque!

nighttrain67 · 07-27-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by oh1deuce

I'm sure the guy with the 127" expected to whoop the 113". The 113" is a softail Evo. It has a ton of torque!

I am guessing they were both Evo style motors.

oh1deuce · 07-27-2008, 02:42 PM

I'd say the electric shift helped a little.

Video footage would have been nice.....

nighttrain67 · 07-27-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by oh1deuce

I'd say the electric shift helped a little.

Video footage would have been nice.....

....and we all know that the electric or pneumatic shifter is a very common streetbike mod, don't we? It is right up there with wheelie bars and slicks as the top three streetbike mods.