SE 96 to 110 CI conversion

[arealinvestor]

Originally Posted by Colonel Sanders

"A HD SE 110ci bike with a custom map and a great tune probably will have way more hp/tq then what was shown on that graph.I'd also be willing to bet you ,that if it was done right ,not one of those 95,103,107's would be able to catch you."

So you think you can take a factory SE110", load a custom tune into it and outrun a well built 107" from GMR or Hillside? Good luck with that. There's a lot more to it than that. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.

Heck, I'd put a really well built 95" against a well tuned stock SE110" any day. No competition.

I think with the right combination of SE pistons,heads & cams and a well tuned 110.It would compete with the gmr's or hillside 107.Keep in mind though, that we are only talking about the top of the motor being redone.SE packages only include the top of the motor,heads and piston combos and intake,efi.We are not taking about doing the flywheel ,balancing,plugging wielding etc.!!!!When hillside and gmr do a motor they do the entire motor.Just by doing the flywheel alone the motor is going to run better and probably pick up a few more horses because there is less resistance/vibration when the flywheel is turning!!!!!

[arealinvestor]

HD SE does offer a 113 too.From the looks of the graph it offers pretty good numbers.These packages with the right combos and tunes should be able to compete.Hell, Harley has been winning drag racing championships for years!!! I'm not talking anything away from any of the guys that tune and build motors on here.They are good at what they do.But i think HD can run with the best of them with the right combos you think?

[BMoscato]

Originally Posted by ceraaa42

Hi Bryan,

So what's your stand on the factory 2 year warranty the bike comes with. Do you want to void it by doing a custom build? You should answer this before moving forward in any way.

To maintain any type of a warranty you'll have to use all HD parts and have the dealer do the work. Even then it's iffy.

Chris

Hey Chris,

Well, I guess I'm going to be voiding my warranty one way or another because I want more power. I guess it just come down to when I'm going to do it. Do I finish out this season and wait until it's cold to do the work or see if someone can get it done while I'm on vacation in August.

I'm assuming that most engine builders will warranty their work for a 12 months 12k miles or something. But I've been known to be wrong and we all know what "they" say about assuming.

Bryan

[arealinvestor]

Originally Posted by BMoscato

Hey Chris,

Well, I guess I'm going to be voiding my warranty one way or another because I want more power. I guess it just come down to when I'm going to do it. Do I finish out this season and wait until it's cold to do the work or see if someone can get it done while I'm on vacation in August.

I'm assuming that most engine builders will warranty their work for a 12 months 12k miles or something. But I've been known to be wrong and we all know what "they" say about assuming.

Bryan

Dude! I never heard of an engine builder warranting a build!!!!!! Unless you know something I don't.I seriously doubt it if you get that.Scroll up and read our past comments on the conversion to a 110ci.Maybe it will enlighten you a bit.Oh, and if your going to do the build i would wait until the winter,just in case,you run into a problem with the build or builder.You will have plenty of time to correct the problem!!!!!!

[BMoscato]

Originally Posted by arealinvestor

Dude! I never heard of an engine builder warranting a build!!!!!! Unless you know something I don't.I seriously doubt it if you get that.Scroll up and read our past comments on the conversion to a 110ci.Maybe it will enlighten you a bit.Oh, and if your going to do the build i would wait until the winter,just in case,you run into a problem with the build or builder.You will have plenty of time to correct the problem!!!!!!

Dude, I started the post and have been following it all the way through.

[arealinvestor]

Originally Posted by thundercatken

I gotta go with Colonel on this one ... Seen 95" engines producing over 120 HP/TQ. Stock 110's can't come close, no matter who the tuner is. Don't get me wrong, for a stock bike, the 110 is a whole lot better than anything else the MOCO offers, but it still isn't a match for a well built aftermarket engine ... and sure as hell isn't worth the extra price tag that goes along with the Screaming Eagle Line.

Dude!!!!!!!!!! i'd love to see this.Someone is fudging some numbers
Natrally aspirated motor? or turbo? nitrious?

[BMoscato]

Originally Posted by thundercatken

Oh man ... I just read your signature. You're on Long Island ... due south of Huntington, right? Looks like 15-20 miles according to mapquest. Take a ride out to Rosa's Cycle shop and see what they have to say. They are great guys and really know their S**T. They run their own race program (Or they used to). I met Andy about 25 years ago at the track. I was running my Hemi Road Runner and he was running a shovelhead that was a legitimate 10 second bike. He was smoking the *** bikes way back then.

They have all in house CNC machines, Flow Bench, Dyno Tuning, ... anything you need.

Quite honestly, If I had somebody that good so close to me, I would decide how much I could spend, then see what they will do for that number. AND ... they warrantee every motor they build, I think it's 12 month/12 thousand miles.

http://www.rosascycle.com/index.html

Rosa's 540 New York Avenue, Huntington, NY 11743

Also, as per thundercatken post above (in this thread that I've been following LOL...) and Rosa's site http://www.rosascycle.com/service.html they do have a 12 month 12k mile warranty on every engine they build.

Bryan

[arealinvestor]

Originally Posted by BMoscato

Also, as per thundercatken post above (in this thread that I've been following LOL...) and Rosa's site http://www.rosascycle.com/service.html they do have a 12 month 12k mile warranty on every engine they build.

Bryan

Dude thats good!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe you should really check into them.Only problem, it will void HD warranty.They (rosascycle) would warranty their build,but what happens if you blow tranny trying to speed shift?
do you want to pay for that? Dude, its a difficult decision on a expensive bike.My buddy advised me about this too,and what he said made sense.He said if he had to do it all over again, he would go with SE first; then once the SE was out of warranty then go build the monster you want.Even with the SE eventually your going to have to rebuild it if you keep it long enough.Did you get the bike yet? or are you still in limbo?

[BMoscato]

Originally Posted by arealinvestor

Dude thats good!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe you should really check into them.Only problem, it will void HD warranty.They (rosascycle) would warranty their build,but what happens if you blow tranny trying to speed shift?
do you want to pay for that? Dude, its a difficult decision on a expensive bike.My buddy advised me about this too,and what he said made sense.He said if he had to do it all over again, he would go with SE first; then once the SE was out of warranty then go build the monster you want.Even with the SE eventually your going to have to rebuild it if you keep it long enough.Did you get the bike yet? or are you still in limbo?

I have the bike around 2 weeks and have 1k miles on it already.

[arealinvestor]

Originally Posted by BMoscato

I have the bike around 2 weeks and have 1k miles on it already.

Did you get the 110 upgrade? The stealer told me that you have to do the upgrade before you take possession of bike or they wouldn't warranty the upgrade?

[BMoscato]

Originally Posted by arealinvestor

Did you get the 110 upgrade? The stealer told me that you have to do the upgrade before you take possession of bike or they wouldn't warranty the upgrade?

Dude, that's why I started this thread. I was debating on which route to go. I'm still running the 96 with a custom pipe and fuel pack.

[arealinvestor]

Originally Posted by BMoscato

Dude, that's why I started this thread. I was debating on which route to go. I'm still running the 96 with a custom pipe and fuel pack.

Oh ok cool.Will they still warranty the bike if you go with the SE 110ci upgrade? being that you took possession already and have miles on it?

[Colonel Sanders]

"Dude!!!!!!!!!! i'd love to see this.Someone is fudging some numbers
Natrally aspirated motor? or turbo? nitrious?"

Not hard to believe. My mildly built 98" made 112/112. That was with reworked stock heads (R&R stage II), a mild to moderate cam (R&R 525), 9.8:1 CR, a CV carb, and true duals. Make it EFI, jack the CR up, use R&R cast heads, a hot cam, and a performance pipe and you have your 120 HP EASY. Not really that uncommon, IMO. Try that with SE parts and see what you get.

[SEDELUXE]

most reputable shops do warranty their products and work. there have been a few that will only warranty their share.

[arealinvestor]

Originally Posted by Colonel Sanders

"Dude!!!!!!!!!! i'd love to see this.Someone is fudging some numbers
Natrally aspirated motor? or turbo? nitrious?"

Not hard to believe. My mildly built 98" made 112/112. That was with reworked stock heads (R&R stage II), a mild to moderate cam (R&R 525), 9.8:1 CR, a CV carb, and true duals. Make it EFI, jack the CR up, use R&R cast heads, a hot cam, and a performance pipe and you have your 120 HP EASY. Not really that uncommon, IMO. Try that with SE parts and see what you get.

Thats cool.I could see that,but 120hp out of a 98? I'm not saying its not possible,but reliablity will not be there.I would definitely like to see the dyno sheets if anyone has one to post.As a matter of fact lets see yours if you care to share??????