SE 96 to 110 CI conversion

[BMoscato]

Hey Ken,

Thanks for the info, yeah, I'm only about 20 minutes from them.

Bryan

[FXDRYDR]

Originally Posted by thundercatken

Oh man ... I just read your signature. You're on Long Island ... due south of Huntington, right? Looks like 15-20 miles according to mapquest. Take a ride out to Rosa's Cycle shop and see what they have to say. They are great guys and really know their S**T. They run their own race program (Or they used to). I met Andy about 25 years ago at the track. I was running my Hemi Road Runner and he was running a shovelhead that was a legitimate 10 second bike. He was smoking the *** bikes way back then.

They have all in house CNC machines, Flow Bench, Dyno Tuning, ... anything you need.

Quite honestly, If I had somebody that good so close to me, I would decide how much I could spend, then see what they will do for that number. AND ... they warrantee every motor they build, I think it's 12 month/12 thousand miles.

http://www.rosascycle.com/index.html

Rosa's 540 New York Avenue, Huntington, NY 11743

+2 on Rosas. John Sachs might stilll do their heads too. Ya might also take a real hard look at Hillside. Both are the real deal and have been for a long time. Right there in your back yard too.

[ceraaa42]

You said warranty was somewhat of an issue. When you bought your bike, did you buy the extended warranty? If so it limits your options. They state even if you change the pipes it affects the warranty.

If not, are you willing to loose all the warranty on the engine with modifications?

Chris

[BMoscato]

Originally Posted by ceraaa42

You said warranty was somewhat of an issue. When you bought your bike, did you buy the extended warranty? If so it limits your options. They state even if you change the pipes it affects the warranty.

If not, are you willing to loose all the warranty on the engine with modifications?

Chris

Hey Chris,

I did not take the extended warranty. A few of my friends told me not to get it so I didn't.

Bryan

[Mohead1]

Never had any work done by them (Rosa's) but I saw them at a AHDRA race several years back with a nitro motor bike. They definately have their shite together. That close? No brainer, no offense, HDWrench.

[FXDRYDR]

Originally Posted by Mohead1

Never had any work done by them (Rosa's) but I saw them at a AHDRA race several years back with a nitro motor bike. They definately have their shite together. That close? No brainer, no offense, HDWrench.

Good thinkin'. Let us know how it comes out for ya!

[todd comer]

Originally Posted by HDWRENCH

If you are dead set on HD parts the 113 kit vs the 110. Too many inssues currently with 110 cylinders with no soild MOCO backing when the cylinder fails. A nice 103 or 107 kit on the stock case built mild would offer some great low end tq. The only issue to really look at is the crank in your current engine now. Have the runout checked on both sprocket shaft and pinion shaft. THe MOCO spec is 100% pour B.S. last I read it was .012 . If you have over .003 I would look to swap the crank while you are doing the build add the Timken bearing in the process and you will have solid fondation to build the engine upon. Take a good luck at what direction you want to go. From there look at the budget and plan your new upgrades.

If you do decide to go into the bottom , due to the crank or you decide to go bigger take a look at a 117 kit. There are many 117 kits that run very well with tons of usable power.

Steve,Why not go with a 124" instead of a 117"?Does the 117" run overall better than the 124"?Seems that the 9b cam in the 124" is a killer bagger motor.

[arealinvestor]

Wow, not alot of positivity stated about HD 110ci.Personally I dont own a HD yet, but going to purchase an ultra next yr.I have been researching motor packages recently.From a warranty standpoint, I would go with a SE package until the warranty expired.If you use the right combo recommended in the race catalog the stealer will warranty the build.If you try to mis match parts they probably will void it.Remember the build is only half the equation.You will have to find a reputable tuner.Anyone can build a motor ,but it takes a good tuner to extract the power out of the build.I have faith in HD motor company and there parts;hell they have been winning drag racing championships for years.However,I dont have faith in most stealerships ability to tune the bike properly after the build.Having been a crotch rocket man for years, I know what proper tunning and custom maps do for a custom build.Most Harley guys dont know what a custom map is for a bike,But in the *** bikes we use them all the time.Follow me,i'm not talking about a generic map downloaded from some site.Im talking about a custom map programmed into a power commander for your build.It takes hours to do.Not a generic map from a company with modest changes /tweaks by the tuner.One built from total scratch. A HD SE 110ci bike with a custom map and a great tune probably will have way more hp/tq then what was shown on that graph.I'd also be willing to bet you ,that if it was done right ,not one of those 95,103,107's would be able to catch you.With that being said go get the HD S/E 113 and tell them all to kiss your a s s

[jerry34208]

Keep doing your homework, there is a lot to learn.

[ceraaa42]

Originally Posted by BMoscato

Hey Chris,

I did not take the extended warranty. A few of my friends told me not to get it so I didn't.

Bryan

Hi Bryan,

So what's your stand on the factory 2 year warranty the bike comes with. Do you want to void it by doing a custom build? You should answer this before moving forward in any way.

To maintain any type of a warranty you'll have to use all HD parts and have the dealer do the work. Even then it's iffy.

Chris

[Colonel Sanders]

"A HD SE 110ci bike with a custom map and a great tune probably will have way more hp/tq then what was shown on that graph.I'd also be willing to bet you ,that if it was done right ,not one of those 95,103,107's would be able to catch you."

So you think you can take a factory SE110", load a custom tune into it and outrun a well built 107" from GMR or Hillside? Good luck with that. There's a lot more to it than that. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.

Heck, I'd put a really well built 95" against a well tuned stock SE110" any day. No competition.

[thundercatken]

Originally Posted by Colonel Sanders

"A HD SE 110ci bike with a custom map and a great tune probably will have way more hp/tq then what was shown on that graph.I'd also be willing to bet you ,that if it was done right ,not one of those 95,103,107's would be able to catch you."

So you think you can take a factory SE110", load a custom tune into it and outrun a well built 107" from GMR or Hillside? Good luck with that. There's a lot more to it than that. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.

Heck, I'd put a really well built 95" against a well tuned stock SE110" any day. No competition.

I gotta go with Colonel on this one ... Seen 95" engines producing over 120 HP/TQ. Stock 110's can't come close, no matter who the tuner is. Don't get me wrong, for a stock bike, the 110 is a whole lot better than anything else the MOCO offers, but it still isn't a match for a well built aftermarket engine ... and sure as hell isn't worth the extra price tag that goes along with the Screaming Eagle Line.

[Hillsidecycle.com]

Originally Posted by FXDRYDR

+2 on Rosas. John Sachs might stilll do their heads too. Ya might also take a real hard look at Hillside. Both are the real deal and have been for a long time. Right there in your back yard too.

We used to provide cylinder head work for Andrew Rosamiglia, and also used to race ECRA, AHDRA C/E, and then, Modified Class back in the day.
I might add, that we were the first kids on the block to campaign dual carbs in that class, when they made the rule change.
They also used to allow VP, C-42 race gas in that class also.
That stuff was good for 5/5 on a 165-175 hp bike. Just rambling on.............
Scott

[route66paul]

Even a basic build 95 with ported heads is stronger than a 110. have you engine checked out for any problems first, then have a good builder do your job. If it does have some problems, you may get some help first from the moco.

[SEDELUXE]

in our area there are not many reputable shops around. remember you can buy the pieces from any one from what ever part of the country you want to. the real thing omes down to onething its the tune. choose some one who can get you going in the right direction the first time.
in our area you have
Hillside
R&R
JD's
black hills
Rosas
all with in a few hrs drive.
choose wisely trust me you dont want to have to be chasing your tail when the bike is together and you have no tuner to tune it.

my personal recomendation is the first 3 they will do you right.
Hillside
JD's
R&R